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hlthe2b

(102,282 posts)
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 05:51 PM Sep 2012

AP Breaking: Wisconsin Judge strikes down Gov. Walker's law ending most collective bargaining

Link to follow--just got the AP alert

Judge Strikes Down Wis. Law Limiting Union Rights

MADISON, Wis. September 15, 2012 (AP)

A Wisconsin judge has struck down the state law championed by Gov. Scott Walker that effectively ended collective bargaining rights for most public workers.

Dane County Circuit Judge Juan Colas ruled Friday that the law violates both the state and U.S. Constitution and is null and void. The ruling comes after a lawsuit brought by the Madison teachers union and a union for Milwaukee city employees.

Walker spokesman Cullen Werwie says he is confident the decision will be overturned on appeal.

It was not clear if the ruling means the law is immediately suspended. The law took away nearly all collective bargaining rights from most workers and has been in effect for more than a year.


http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/judge-strikes-wis-law-limiting-union-rights-17240678#.UFOnD64rlVc

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AP Breaking: Wisconsin Judge strikes down Gov. Walker's law ending most collective bargaining (Original Post) hlthe2b Sep 2012 OP
Good PD Turk Sep 2012 #1
this is SERIOUSLY beginning to sound like waves of change are coming this way a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #2
I surely hope so.... Walker is beyond contempt. hlthe2b Sep 2012 #3
maybe so but he was 1st elected then kept in office by majority vote - he is not alone nt msongs Sep 2012 #4
I thought the consensus was that the reason for his surviving the recall was a general reluctance... hlthe2b Sep 2012 #8
This really sounds like a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #5
Funkie Charlie Daniels tama Sep 2012 #15
Sounds good! a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #16
Thought you'd like it tama Sep 2012 #21
that would make it hard to get a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #22
Screw Charlie Daniels.... a kennedy Sep 2012 #31
Puke tama Sep 2012 #32
Music? Please join the author of the work in singing Our National Anthem Jack Rabbit Sep 2012 #23
I was really thinking of a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #26
Isn't more modern tama Sep 2012 #27
I seem to remember that Noam Chomsky a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #28
Want to hear something funny? Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #17
... a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #18
About to be discussed on Sharpton's MSNBC show.... hlthe2b Sep 2012 #6
Ed will be all over this (nt) Shankapotomus Sep 2012 #19
This is huge malaise Sep 2012 #7
Awesome. Solidarity! nt Zorra Sep 2012 #9
Announced on Sharpton too. BumRushDaShow Sep 2012 #10
Congratulations! n/t porphyrian Sep 2012 #11
Tis is better than recalling the bastard. Jack Rabbit Sep 2012 #12
Talking Point Memo has a good discussion going hlthe2b Sep 2012 #13
Looks like the judiciary is our last hope to keep this democracy from crumbling sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #14
Paul Ryan supported this law and Walker. Major Hogwash Sep 2012 #20
excuse me for a moment. Incitatus Sep 2012 #24
This heard this very good news--I'll bet it goes to the WI Supreme Court though. WI_DEM Sep 2012 #25
I hate to rain on the parade, but.... TheMightyFavog Sep 2012 #29
Then appeal to the Supreme Court. It's the US Constitution that's being cited for the most part: freshwest Sep 2012 #37
Best part right cites essential parts of the US Constitution: freshwest Sep 2012 #30
This really needs to be stressed over and over LiberalFighter Sep 2012 #35
FALCON PUUUUUUUUUUUUNCH!!!!!! dorksied Sep 2012 #33
Made my day SmittynMo Sep 2012 #34
That's great news! Hubert Flottz Sep 2012 #36
kr HiPointDem Sep 2012 #38
Oh Happy day!!!!! SmittynMo Sep 2012 #39
 

a geek named Bob

(2,715 posts)
2. this is SERIOUSLY beginning to sound like waves of change are coming this way
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 05:53 PM
Sep 2012

Walker's losing power
Murdoch's breaking up Newcorp
There are multiple outbreaks of solar and wind power
and they MAY have discovered a cur to AIDS/HIV

hlthe2b

(102,282 posts)
8. I thought the consensus was that the reason for his surviving the recall was a general reluctance...
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 06:21 PM
Sep 2012

among Wisconsinites to recall, rather than any real continuing support for Walker...

 

a geek named Bob

(2,715 posts)
5. This really sounds like
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 06:02 PM
Sep 2012

the prairie progressive movement of the 1890's - 1935...

-People are starting to move their money into local banks and credit unions.
-more local food
-more local fixit shops
-more "alternative lifestyles and housing situations"

If we could just get some good music going...

 

tama

(9,137 posts)
15. Funkie Charlie Daniels
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:10 PM
Sep 2012

Good enough for ya? Ya don't like, put up something better!

&feature=player_detailpage
 

a geek named Bob

(2,715 posts)
16. Sounds good!
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:16 PM
Sep 2012

I was thinking we need to get up with the new FCC rules about local low power community oriented radio stations...

Music, local interviews, commentary, music, skits...

 

tama

(9,137 posts)
21. Thought you'd like it
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:44 PM
Sep 2012

I know you are city boy, but something told me good ole country music wouldn't be displeasing.

I've never been surrounded by better music than when I was living in an ecocommunity. Radio was never on and nobody played records, just live music. Nearly constant flow of amazing and wonderful live music, it never stopped surprising with new form of beauty.

a kennedy

(29,668 posts)
31. Screw Charlie Daniels....
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 12:17 AM
Sep 2012

not Obama people....

Here's the open letter To Barack Hussein Obama by Charlie Daniels.

Mr. Obama, You recently made a statement to the effect that, ”If you have a business you didn't build it, you had help," implying that the federal government helped build our businesses by virtue of paving roads and building bridges and keeping the nation safe from foreign invasion.

First of all, Mr. Obama, if I'm going to take advice about business it will not be from somebody who has had absolutely no business experience like yourself. Secondly, Mr. Obama, I vehemently disagree with your premise.

Where was your government when I spent as much as 16 weeks away from my wife and infant son to get a business started? Where were you on those cold winter nights when my old bus broke down in the middle of nowhere and we had to scramble to make the next show, nobody from the government came along to give us a ride? Where was your government when I had to borrow money from a bank to make my payroll? Where was your government while I was digging out of a two million dollar debt, playing every smoky beer joint I could to keep from losing everything I owned?

Mr. Obama, I want to make you aware of a fact. It is the federal government's responsibility to build roads and bridges and keep the nation safe. That's what the federal government is supposed to do, not create an entitlement society that is totally unsustainable and pile up debt that we can't pay. And who do you think paid for those roads and bridges in the first place, and have been doing it for 200 years before you were even born?

http://www.zimbio.com/Barack+Obama/articles/WihtjNsvHM1/Charlie+Daniels+Open+Letter+Barack+Obama

 

tama

(9,137 posts)
32. Puke
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 12:42 AM
Sep 2012

"Obama people" seems to puke a lot. Maybe it's what it needs to do, get that puke of hate out its system.

I know nothing about Charlie Daniels, I just like the song. Probably because I like dope and the song mentions dope - and has nice earthy groove. Now "Obama people" invites me to hate together with it a guy I don't know. That doesn't make me like "Obama people" more. I don't like to hate. Not "Obama people" or Charlie Daniels or anybody else.

Perhaps I understand some of that hate and puke. I've been full of fear and hate, and can't promise nothing of that is left. But I've puked much of it out. Literally puked. Hasn't been easy, the puke of fear and hate was very sticky and stuck very deep. Hope it's easier for you and symbolic puking is enough.

 

tama

(9,137 posts)
27. Isn't more modern
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:58 PM
Sep 2012

postmodern, postpostmodern, metapostpostmodern, etc etc etc? If modern would remain just 'modern' it would grow old for those constantly seeking novelty

 

a geek named Bob

(2,715 posts)
28. I seem to remember that Noam Chomsky
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:59 PM
Sep 2012

said he would consign most of the "postmodern" and "metamodern" theories to the flames.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
17. Want to hear something funny?
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:21 PM
Sep 2012

The Republicans actually BELIEVE that Reagan was wildly popular (when he wasn't) and part of that "popularity" was his Union Busting.

They considered Scott Walker to be a rising star in the Party. They decided he needed to do something "Reaganesque" and gave their full support to his union bashing campaign. The entire Right Wing Noise Machine was deployed and tons of money was poured into the effort. They didn't do that because they gave a DAMN about Wisconsin. They did it to make Scott Walker so wildly popular to the whole country that the American Public would carry him to the White House on their shoulders cheering.

This is the kind of "stinkin' thinkin'" you would expect of alcoholics.

Proof that they've drunk their own Kool-Aid...

hlthe2b

(102,282 posts)
6. About to be discussed on Sharpton's MSNBC show....
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 06:17 PM
Sep 2012

I thought he was going to have John Nichols with The Nation to discuss, but he just echoed the AP wire release... Oh, well... maybe Rachel, Lawrence or Ed will have more

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
12. Tis is better than recalling the bastard.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 06:57 PM
Sep 2012

Judge Juan Colas, eh? That sounds suspiciously Hispanic. Do you suppose he's an illegal?

They'd better call in Sheriff Arpaio to get to the bottom of this.

hlthe2b

(102,282 posts)
13. Talking Point Memo has a good discussion going
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 06:58 PM
Sep 2012

Walker: ‘We Are Confident’ Collective Bargaining Law Will Be Upheld On Appeal
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/walker-we-are-confident-collective-bargaining-law-will

Gov. Scott Walker blasted a Dane County judge's ruling Friday, striking down Walker's 2011 law rolling back most collective bargaining for public employees.

"The people of Wisconsin clearly spoke on June 5th. Now, they are ready to move on," Walker said in a statement, referring to the recall election that Democrats launched against him, and which he ultimately won. "Sadly a liberal activist judge in Dane County wants to go backwards and take away the law making responsibilities of the legislature and the governor. We are confident that the state will ultimately prevail in the appeals process."

Previously in 2011, another Dane County judge had struck down the law on procedural grounds, relating to the committee process used to pass it. However, this was then reversed on appeal by a 4-3 vote of the state Supreme Court, which holds a narrow conservative majority.

Judge's opinion here: http://www.thewheelerreport.com/releases/September12/0914/0914mtivwalker.pdf

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
14. Looks like the judiciary is our last hope to keep this democracy from crumbling
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 06:59 PM
Sep 2012

under the attempts to undermine it.

Two great decisions from judges this week so far.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
25. This heard this very good news--I'll bet it goes to the WI Supreme Court though.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:37 PM
Sep 2012

where its may very well be overturned.

TheMightyFavog

(13,770 posts)
29. I hate to rain on the parade, but....
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 10:06 PM
Sep 2012

This WILL get overturned by the State Supreme Court. The majority of the justices on that bench have had their elections bought and paid for by the Koch Borhters and other right wing interests such as Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
37. Then appeal to the Supreme Court. It's the US Constitution that's being cited for the most part:
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 01:46 PM
Sep 2012
Dane County Circuit Judge Juan Colas ruled that the law violates both the state and U.S. Constitution and is null and void.

In his 27-page ruling, the judge said sections of the law "single out and encumber the rights of those employees who choose union membership and representation solely because of that association and therefore infringe upon the rights of free speech and association guaranteed by both the Wisconsin and United States Constitutions."

Colas also said the law violates the equal protection clause by creating separate classes of workers who are treated differently and unequally.


That's from the ABC News link, citing the decision. Be of good cheer, Favog.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
30. Best part right cites essential parts of the US Constitution:
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 11:35 PM
Sep 2012
Dane County Circuit Judge Juan Colas ruled that the law violates both the state and U.S. Constitution and is null and void.

In his 27-page ruling, the judge said sections of the law "single out and encumber the rights of those employees who choose union membership and representation solely because of that association and therefore infringe upon the rights of free speech and association guaranteed by both the Wisconsin and United States Constitutions."

Colas also said the law violates the equal protection clause by creating separate classes of workers who are treated differently and unequally.


I"m saying Game, Set and Match to the US Constitution. I doubt even those hidebound reactionary/corporatists at the USSC can figure out a way to let Wanker, KochBros and the GOP get their way on this one.

That is straight forward and the reason I've always said laws restricting workers from union organizing or membership were ridiculous. What these were should have been explained to people this way from the start.

The labor movement, like the corporate world, got up in the ideology of a bygone era. This is timeless reasoning. Even if these nitwits think corporations are people, they will have to sustain this ruling.

Equal protection under the law is how all the cases, of marriage equality, women's rights, etc. should be framed. Because that is what this country is about. Love it or go offshore to an authoritarian hellhole. We don't need ya.

LiberalFighter

(50,938 posts)
35. This really needs to be stressed over and over
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 09:21 AM
Sep 2012

Any laws, rules, regulations on unions should only be to the extent that business organizations are also regulated such as the Chamber.

There are employees that are members of other non labor union organizations that pertain to their occupation but they are not regulated like labor unions.

dorksied

(348 posts)
33. FALCON PUUUUUUUUUUUUNCH!!!!!!
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 08:02 AM
Sep 2012

Right in Walkers smarmy mouth! Hahaha, this is the best news EVER! (Today)

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