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ck4829

(35,077 posts)
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:59 PM Sep 2012

I lost respect for Dr. Pepper because they show the theory of evolution

"this is showing the theory of men evolving from apes. I have lost all respect for Dr Pepper and if Dr Pepper wants business from thousands of people they will need to apologize."

http://news.yahoo.com/dr-pepper-facebook-ad-ignites-evolution-debate-170709276.html

Oh wow you guys. Imagine the respect Dr. Pepper would have lost from thousands of people if they shown the germ theory of disease, cell theory, kinetic theory of gases, theory of relativity, theory of plate tectonics, or theory of... (gasp!) gravity.

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I lost respect for Dr. Pepper because they show the theory of evolution (Original Post) ck4829 Sep 2012 OP
Gravity is temporary until the Rapture. Sparkly Sep 2012 #1
The rapture already happened Risen Demon Sep 2012 #2
Perfect. OffWithTheirHeads Sep 2012 #3
Gravity was made to test our faith ck4829 Sep 2012 #4
Only if your definition of "All-Loving" is kinda fucked up.... Volaris Sep 2012 #23
Some people do WANT to be that dumb ck4829 Sep 2012 #24
Yeah... defacto7 Sep 2012 #31
consider this essay on gravity kiri Sep 2012 #56
There is no gravity. The Earth sucks Suji to Seoul Sep 2012 #51
7-Up: The Official Soft Drink of the Rapture Sabriel Sep 2012 #67
My response the the "just a theory" people nobodyspecial Sep 2012 #5
that actually would be a remedy in many ways fascisthunter Sep 2012 #8
If you jump, it's not gravity you would have to be worried about... defacto7 Sep 2012 #32
I am sure that person considered Dr. Pepper his most respected scientist before this blasphemy Bjorn Against Sep 2012 #6
"Dr. Pepper probably supports Obamacare too!" ck4829 Sep 2012 #9
Where is Dr. Pepper's birth certificate? Live and Learn Sep 2012 #10
besides... theKed Sep 2012 #70
religious right wingos should try to prove the theory of gravity false fascisthunter Sep 2012 #7
Can someome explain to me why exactly you can't believe in evolution and God? theinquisitivechad Sep 2012 #11
Creationists connect evolution to the big bang and other crazy things ck4829 Sep 2012 #12
because "god's will" is only valid when used against people or beliefs one does NOT like? nt msongs Sep 2012 #13
It's because, for this particular brand of Religious Wacko... Volaris Sep 2012 #26
Well put, fellow traveller. eom boppers Sep 2012 #41
Are you kidding? Curmudgeoness Sep 2012 #27
actually.. defacto7 Sep 2012 #35
It does sound likek reasonable evolution Curmudgeoness Sep 2012 #49
Here's an explanation you haven't gotten yet ladym55 Sep 2012 #52
I gotcha. I guess I underestimated. . . theinquisitivechad Sep 2012 #61
"DR PEPPERS NOT EVEN A REAL DOCTOR ZOMG!!1111!!" nt Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #14
Anyone else hate Dr Pepper?... Locut0s Sep 2012 #15
I've never had Dr. Pepper ck4829 Sep 2012 #16
Been a long time since I had it but if memory serves me right it tastes like... Locut0s Sep 2012 #36
Tastes like peach pits. defacto7 Sep 2012 #37
Funny I've never had the urge to eat a peach pit... Locut0s Sep 2012 #39
Cherry pits too jmowreader Sep 2012 #58
no; it has caffeine eShirl Sep 2012 #45
So do most of the dark "colas/pops/sodas". Locut0s Sep 2012 #47
It's pretty awful. TwilightGardener Sep 2012 #65
Apologize to the apes? jberryhill Sep 2012 #17
Apes do need to be apologized to ck4829 Sep 2012 #19
They're thinking of applying to be amphibians jberryhill Sep 2012 #21
PEOPLE, IT IS "Dr" not "Dr." - THERE IS NO PERIOD jberryhill Sep 2012 #18
And that's why I don't drink it ck4829 Sep 2012 #20
That correlates with being a creationist you know? jberryhill Sep 2012 #22
why does dr pepper come in a bottle? Gabi Hayes Sep 2012 #25
Greetings, ancient time traveler jberryhill Sep 2012 #57
The bartender says "We don't serve Tachyons here." Gabi Hayes Sep 2012 #63
The redneck teabaggers understand the theory of relativity... jerseyjack Sep 2012 #28
This just affirms my love of Dr Pepper :) nt TBF Sep 2012 #29
Sadly, I love Dr. Pepper. tavernier Sep 2012 #30
for christ sakes and politics... defacto7 Sep 2012 #40
oh dear... tavernier Sep 2012 #46
Mr. Pibb is no more (sadly) Hong Kong Cavalier Sep 2012 #60
Ah, so you're a Repibblican? Dr. Strange Sep 2012 #66
I can't wait for the Mr. Pib - Dr Pepper debate over evolution WooWooWoo Sep 2012 #33
This move me to buy a 12-pack of (diet) Dr Pepper today! LongTomH Sep 2012 #34
I for one will never buy DR. Pepper again, Goodnight sir! jp11 Sep 2012 #38
First it's defacto7 Sep 2012 #42
Apes and men descended from a common ancestor Ebadlun Sep 2012 #43
That sounds plausible to me. AverageJoe90 Sep 2012 #69
Thanks so much for this thread. BlueMTexpat Sep 2012 #44
Thank goodness they're not storming Imalittleteapot Sep 2012 #48
I'm drinking Third Doctor Sep 2012 #50
If I drank soda I'd buy Dr. Pepper by the gallon. Initech Sep 2012 #53
What is this "theory of men evolving from apes"? I've never heard of such a theory. NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #54
Dr. Pepper is among the best sodas ever made. Jamaal510 Sep 2012 #55
Why am I jonesing for a Dr. Pepper now. Gotta get to the grocery store pronto! nt live love laugh Sep 2012 #59
While I have to be honest and admit that I am highly skeptical...... AverageJoe90 Sep 2012 #62
We didn't descend from apes, we are apes... Humanist_Activist Sep 2012 #64
I completely disagree. We are not apes in any way, shape, or form. AverageJoe90 Sep 2012 #68
Homo is a genus of the Primate order jberryhill Sep 2012 #72
No we cannot be civil, this is like trying to "agree to disagree" with a flat Earther... Humanist_Activist Sep 2012 #73
YAY for Dr Pepper! Somebody Cha Sep 2012 #71

Sparkly

(24,149 posts)
1. Gravity is temporary until the Rapture.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:03 PM
Sep 2012

Silly Newton! He should have stuck with the cookie business.

I too am losing respect for sodas. I mean, what is a Sprite other than a Satan-worshipper?

Risen Demon

(199 posts)
2. The rapture already happened
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:06 PM
Sep 2012

But god decided to take the dodo bird instead of us. Something about being more worthy.

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
23. Only if your definition of "All-Loving" is kinda fucked up....
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:54 PM
Sep 2012

I know I shouldn't hate them, but people of Faith who can't imagine a God smart enough to handle basic Science really do just piss me off. In a Nation that put a man on the MOON it bespeaks a level of Stupid that can only be achieved through intention (you gotta WANT to be that dumb).

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
24. Some people do WANT to be that dumb
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:56 PM
Sep 2012

They view intellectualism as liberal elitism. A college degree is just an "indoctrination certificate" to these people.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
31. Yeah...
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:38 PM
Sep 2012

Who is this god anyway that makes the entire universe as a big practical joke on us?
Are you laughing your ass off GOD? We're a big joke, huh? Well take you universe and shove it!

I don't like to be made fun of.

kiri

(794 posts)
56. consider this essay on gravity
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 11:09 PM
Sep 2012
http://www.thehumanist.org/humanist/schempp.html

It is clear that gravity is a fetish promoted by leftists looking for free grant money. I mean, they cannot even explain with a single simple fact as to why there are two high tides every day.

If there is some damnable universal theory of gravity--not mentioned in the Bible nor Qu'ran--then universal health care and other moral decay will follow.



Sabriel

(5,035 posts)
67. 7-Up: The Official Soft Drink of the Rapture
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 10:23 PM
Sep 2012

It's got both "7" and "Up" in its name. What more could you ask for?

nobodyspecial

(2,286 posts)
5. My response the the "just a theory" people
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:10 PM
Sep 2012

Gravity is just a theory as well. Why don't you go jump out the window?

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
7. religious right wingos should try to prove the theory of gravity false
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:11 PM
Sep 2012

put their faith on the line... step up or shut the fuck up whackos.

theinquisitivechad

(322 posts)
11. Can someome explain to me why exactly you can't believe in evolution and God?
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:30 PM
Sep 2012

As a non-participant in organized religion, I have yet to have this explained to me in a compelling manner.

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
12. Creationists connect evolution to the big bang and other crazy things
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:34 PM
Sep 2012

I have seen some even call the big bang "cosmological evolution", not to mention the idea that 'we came from monkeys' totally denigrates their belief that we came from dust.

You can believe in God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, Vishnu, Shiva, and the Tooth Fairy and you can still recognize evolution as science.

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
26. It's because, for this particular brand of Religious Wacko...
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:12 PM
Sep 2012

Either/Or thinking is the only kind. But, in reality, True Spiritual Enlightenment (for those who believe in such things) is a product of Both/And Thinking (ask any Buddhist). God CAN exist, AND so can Science. Leaving the former and arriving at the latter is Journey of sorts (in ancient stories and Parables, you had to go out into "The Wilderness&quot , and when you come back, and people ask you what you found out there, almost every time, the answer is something akin to "The Devil".

"WELL. That sure as hell sounds like somewhere I should avoid at ALL COSTS. Don't want any of that Evil Temptation happening to MY soul, no-sir-ee."

The people who aren't afraid of the Devil go into The Wilderness. When they come back, they are hailed as Brothers/Sisters/Fellows by others who have attempted the Journey, and understand.

And the chicken-shits who stayed the fuck home eventually try to have them killed.

I hope that helps...

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
27. Are you kidding?
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:18 PM
Sep 2012

The Bible spells it out. God created all the creatures of the earth, then created Adam and Eve. End of discussion.

Really, that is the end of the discussion.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
35. actually..
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:47 PM
Sep 2012

1. First god created light
2. Then he separates water from land
3. Then he calls for trees and plants to give fruit
4. Then he created the sun and moon

Makes a whole lot of sense! Sounds like reasonable evolution to me!

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
49. It does sound likek reasonable evolution
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 10:14 PM
Sep 2012

until you get to the part where God created man in his own image. And you just can't get the anti-evolution religious people to look past that. Not with all the fossil evidence in the world.

But I also don't see why someone cannot believe in God and evolution without a problem.

ladym55

(2,577 posts)
52. Here's an explanation you haven't gotten yet
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 10:31 PM
Sep 2012

Okay in Genesis, God creates the earth in SEVEN DAYS. (Now the actual order God uses differs between the account in Genesis 1 and Genesis 2, but don't bring that up with fundies. It's messy when their heads explode.)

Now fundies take the bible literally ... all words in it are FACTUAL and perfect (cuz they're from God and all). NOTE: Commands by Jesus about caring for the least of these and loving one another .... apparently NOT taken literally ... but I digress.

Since Genesis says seven DAYS including day and night, the world had to come to be in seven calendar days (although I doubt the ancient people of Israel actually used our calendar, but I digress yet again)

If the bible says that God created in earth in seven days, there's no way there could have been evolution over millions of years. God SAID seven days. Get that?

And if you don't take EVERY WORD of the bible literally (except for all the stuff about love and sharing with each other) then you don't love God.

theinquisitivechad

(322 posts)
61. I gotcha. I guess I underestimated. . .
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 08:59 PM
Sep 2012

The power and popularity of the literal reading of the Bible. It just seems like such an incongruous and fallacious document that I forget people actually do take it at face value. When you take it at face value, there's really no room for anything else.

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
16. I've never had Dr. Pepper
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:38 PM
Sep 2012

Apparently, it has a side effect of turning you into a young earth creationist.

(Kidding by the way in case there are fans of Dr. Pepper)

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
36. Been a long time since I had it but if memory serves me right it tastes like...
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:47 PM
Sep 2012

cream soda + coke + black pepper.

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
39. Funny I've never had the urge to eat a peach pit...
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:50 PM
Sep 2012

And yes I've heard that too. Same with apple seeds.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
58. Cherry pits too
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 01:20 AM
Sep 2012

During the Reagan Eighties, the federal government found that the Iraqi engineer who designed Moammar Khadafy's chemical weapons plant had also invested $5 million in a cherry-flavoring plant in Boca Raton, Florida...because the pits have cyanide in them and they were going to extract the cyanide from the pits, package it as cherry flavoring and ship it to Libya.

Fortunately, the evil federal government got involved and stopped it before it got going good.

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1990-09-16/news/9002140381_1_chemical-weapons-weapons-plant-toxic-weapons

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
17. Apologize to the apes?
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:39 PM
Sep 2012

They're the ones being maligned in all of this.

All of the other mammals are making fun of them.

And that includes the marsupials. When a marsupial thinks YOU are an odd creature, something is definitely out of kilter.

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
19. Apes do need to be apologized to
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:42 PM
Sep 2012

Creationists keep suggesting that people who support evolution came from the apes. I'm pretty sure an ape would want a creationist as a descendant as much as a creationist wants an ape for an ancestor.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
21. They're thinking of applying to be amphibians
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:46 PM
Sep 2012

Mammals? Oh no, not us.

Personally, I blame vertebrates in general.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
22. That correlates with being a creationist you know?
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:50 PM
Sep 2012

They flunked science AND English.

It's a bloody crime against humanity of bad punctuation

 

jerseyjack

(1,361 posts)
28. The redneck teabaggers understand the theory of relativity...
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:24 PM
Sep 2012

...it says all your female relatives are fair game..

tavernier

(12,389 posts)
30. Sadly, I love Dr. Pepper.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:31 PM
Sep 2012

It is my shameful secret. I never drink sodas, but once every few months I have a D.P. Yup. Full strength, high octane. I know, I know... this is the drink of rednecks, freepers, birthers, and teabaggers. But... but... I can't help it...

"My name is Tavernier and I'm a Pepper."

*hangs head in shame*

tavernier

(12,389 posts)
46. oh dear...
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 10:07 PM
Sep 2012

That is a very difficult choice.

But *light bulb moment*... I do happen to love a beverage called a Rum Runner. Can I use this as a swap?

jp11

(2,104 posts)
38. I for one will never buy DR. Pepper again, Goodnight sir!
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:50 PM
Sep 2012

How dare Dr. Pepper insinuate that God placed Dr. Pepper on the earth for some offshoot of an ape to find before he created man who beat that mutated ape to death and took the Dr. Pepper!

No creationism on my Dr. Pepper drinks!

Ebadlun

(336 posts)
43. Apes and men descended from a common ancestor
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:54 PM
Sep 2012

I will be boycotting Dr Pepper until they clarify this, with fully sourced footnotes.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
69. That sounds plausible to me.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 11:27 PM
Sep 2012

TBH, I've never believed that humans were apes. But that doesn't discount the theory of humans and other lifeforms sharing distant ancestors, though, and in fact, if you go far enough back.......

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
44. Thanks so much for this thread.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:55 PM
Sep 2012

So many DUZY-worthy responses!

So love as I don't have to drink it, I love Dr Pepper - if only for this thread.

Imalittleteapot

(3,377 posts)
48. Thank goodness they're not storming
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 10:14 PM
Sep 2012

Dr. Pepper's corporate headquarters.

Religious nuts are making me crazy and I don't mean the good hearted religious folks. I mean the angry fundamentalists on all continents, including this one.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
55. Dr. Pepper is among the best sodas ever made.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 10:45 PM
Sep 2012

And no, I'm not saying that just because of this piece of news.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
62. While I have to be honest and admit that I am highly skeptical......
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 09:08 PM
Sep 2012

...of this one small part of mainstream evolution theory, that is, the "men evolved from apes" belief, I'm also somewhat distressed by the fact that these people have been all too willing to discard ALL science over one tiny disagreement. It's like an 8-year-old being told a story about an uncle fighting in Vietnam, and when he finds out that his uncle may not have actually jumped over a landmine to save a village toddler, then he may begin to believe that everything else may be false, too, even if the rest of the story is indeed accurate.

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
64. We didn't descend from apes, we are apes...
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 10:17 PM
Sep 2012

In any way you can imagine we are classified as apes. Whether through gross anatomy or genetics, we are 100% ape. This isn't even theory, this is fact.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
68. I completely disagree. We are not apes in any way, shape, or form.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 11:23 PM
Sep 2012

But hey, we can be civil with each other, right? Many hardcore fundies, on the other hand, will slander anybody who even slightly disagrees with them.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
72. Homo is a genus of the Primate order
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 03:57 AM
Sep 2012

We are animals.

We are vertebrates.

We are mammals.

We are primates.

We are hominids.

We are Homo Sapiens, the species of the hominids which awarded itself with "self awareness, perhaps prematurely.

These are all accurate things to say. We can go back further, and broader, to say we are carbon based life forms.

And all carbon based life forms share fundamental chemical processes which, along with other evidence, is utterly most simply and with an extremely high level of probability due to having a common origin, or at least separate origins of precursors which have merged into a single ecosystem to the extent that all living things today are, for all intents and purposes, correctly stated to be of common origin.

There is simply no rational dispute of this fact which screams its obviousness from the sum of our observations of nature.

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
73. No we cannot be civil, this is like trying to "agree to disagree" with a flat Earther...
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 11:26 AM
Sep 2012

just not possible. I advise you educate yourself on phylogeny, and evolutionary biology before attempting to discuss this further, or all you are doing is propagating ignorance.

Cha

(297,246 posts)
71. YAY for Dr Pepper! Somebody
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 11:55 PM
Sep 2012

had to school those who refuse to accept REALITY!

I don't drink any sodas, anymore.. I do drink Kombucha..Totally an Enlightened Drink!

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