Let's get started and find a running mate!

But I’m sure I’ll hear why I’m wrong about that in 5 4 3 2 1

Well you won't find it here, Buster.

Let's face it, he might have the African American vote anyway but people of color have made it clear they will mobilize everything they've got if he has a woman of color as a running mate. And I think most white women will be happy to have a woman on the ticket. Heck, I I could hand pick I'd pick Michelle Obama, crazy an idea as that is. She would galvanize SO many people who otherwise might be defeatist or just not be impressed by the celebrity. I'll take celebrity if it would get a brilliant woman in the WH.

In reality though I like Kamala, Warren and Abrams in that order. But I don't think Warren would bring enough. And Abrams could learn fast but I'd be happier with more experience and some fierceness on the campaign. Which leaves...

To excite the base, you need more than another moderate Democrat. Amy would bring the same level of excitement for Biden as Tim Kaine did for Hillary.

blah.

I find her less then exciting.

She would be an excellent a president too when time comes. Thanks Atticus!

It won't fan excitement. Democrats will still vote for him, but, it will take a lot of grassroots community leaders to excite the base. I'm sure it's going to be enough, because Trump simply can't win.

Younger.

I definitely like Amy, but I think someone a bit more progressive would be good or a minority. I'll be happy with whoever he chooses, I just would hate to see a seemingly safe choice like the one Hillary made in 2016. Nothing against Tim Kaine, who I think is a fine person, but I was hoping she would do something a little more groundbreaking, like pick a woman running mate. I knew the odds were against it, but still I hoped. That would have been historic.

I'd like to see an AA or any woman of color as his VP.

The man does not have much in the way of weaknesses. Pretty much limited to gender, race and age. I do not consider any of those weaknesses but some do.

Personal chemistry will help more than most realize. They are inheriting a hell of a mess. Democrats usually do.

a Biden/Klobuchar ticket would be a winner. Folks need to understand that a Pres and VP need to have similar goals and objectives. And they need to be able to work well gether. Perhaps this is the case here?

are also undergoing vetting. Vetting is the first step.

I wonder why the Klobachar camp put that out. Heh.

True, she wasn't my first pick, but I see a tremendous amount of good from this team.

She screams "mental balance" and clear-eyed reason. And her cutting sense of humor and lowkey sarcasm will be most welcome in this battle against Trump.

I always respect your opinion on these matters.

Amy does nothing for me. And I have heard stories about some personnel management traits that seem troublesome.

I'm trying to see it as America would see it. And I'm looking for a candidate who will be supported by Bernie's people.

I just don't see a plus there.

My opinion only.

other posters are saying maybe we shouldn't read too much into this, and that's fine with me.

I'd still rather have our VP be Susan Rice, Kamala Harris or Stacey Abrams.

Just, if Biden had actually made his pick, I was just trying to "get on board" with it. That's all.

Thanks.

I like Susan Rice.....hadn't thought much about that previously. That would sure freak out the most corrupt Repugs. nt

isn't exactly ultra stability.

Biden has the centrist vote locked up. I hope he doesn't try to double lock what he already has when he can pick a woman of color or a progressive and excite that portion of the base to increased numbers. I tend to think he and his team are smart enough to do that ultimately. Klobuchar would be Tim Kaine 2.0.

And I wish he'd pick someone with a better record on the environment (she had the lowest grade of any candidate), or Susan Rice or Kamala Harris for that matter...

But if she's going to be it, I'm just trying to get excited about it...

the article lists others who have already been vetted or started the process so she's not even the first one.

Just, for whatever reason, when I saw the way the OP was phrased it seemed like a bigger deal than it is.

Sorry! My bad.

And we'll soon know what other candidates are under the same scrutiny. It isn't just her.

Thank YOU!

base election.

Wait a sec in the other thread the other day you were making the case that we just had to worry about the states with Dem Governors and that we didn't need to worry about red states. ????

aim the binders she throws at her staff right where they’ll do the most damage. And who doesn’t love when she makes a staff member wash her dishes, reminds me of a certain currently serving SOS

Amy will do absolutely nothing for the ticket, and will probably even drag it down. She would be one of the worst choices he could make.

Bad idea.

We need help with moderate states with Arizona and Georgia which is why neither Warren nor Harris would be of much help.

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Just a few Amy performed better. Just a few, and they were states Trump would win anyway.

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I sincerely hope he's vetting other candidates, as well.

She wasn't my favorite candidate at the beginning of the primaries, but I watched her and was highly impressed with her.

Is she as liberal as I'd like? No, but most voters aren't either. (I supported Bernie in 2016.) I just want to win this one.

for Joe. We need someone who can excite the more liberal members of the party and the minority members of the base and she just won't do it. She's just to centrist and too bland. She's another Tim Kaine, and that didn't work out so well for us last time.

I like Harris for VP.

moderate states.

Or inspire the black vote.

we need. I like Tammy Duckworth also.

The only thing I care about showing Trump, Kushner, Miller, Barr, and Pompeo the door and never seeing them again.

11 or 12 'finalists'.

1. She is the most problematic with PoC of the 11 or so frontrunners (she polled worse that Buttigieg did with A-A's and does not have a great legal background when it comes to race-related justice issues from her time as Hennepin County Attorney.) She also, at one point, she had voted for nearly 2/3rds of Trump's judicial nominees, some of them who were clearly unqualified.

2. She lacks the temperament, IMHO, based off her past interactions with staff and subordinates, which was on exhibit in the last several debates.

3. She would be the most antagonistic pick in regards to the left half (not just the far left Sanders people) of the party as she ran one of the most hostile-to-progressives primaries (only surpassed by Hickenlooper, Delaney, and Bloomberg IMHO.)

4. She adds little in terms of energising and attracting the under 45yo vote (she polled very poorly with them the entire primary campaign), which is a pre-existing issue with Biden himself.

5. I think the entire 'she will bring the Midwest for sure' angle is overrated, as she did fairly poorly in Iowa (5th place), which is adjacent to Minnesota. I think she brings little to the table in terms of winning Florida (as massively crucial state) as well, the same for North Carolina. Georgia, and Nevada (5th place). She won 3% of the vote in SC, a heavily A-A primary.

I am leaning towards Harris, Lujan Grisham, Abrams, or maybe Whitmer, but I would be fine with most all of the other top 10 or 11 over Klobuchar. Rice is maybe a risk due the Rethugs going insane over the Benghazi claptrap, but they can sod the fuck off, although Biden seems risk-averse, so may not put her in the top 5 or so.

Klobuchar has Kaine 2016 written all over her, with many of the same potential downsides. This is not the election to play 'let's ram in the most centrist VP pick of all the 11 or so favourites and the one with the least strength amongst PoC and younger voters' games.

I would prefer a progressive woman of color. That’s the winning combo, I believe.

of 'winning over the white moderates in swing states'.

The problem as Rachel Bitecofer and others have noted is: (a) the country is heavily polarized and you have to mobilize base voters (and 'base' doesn't mean far-left, but just core constituencies like PoC, women, youth, liberals, etc that powered Obama); (b) elections are nationalized and picking a VP to 'win a swing state' doesn't work anymore, Hillary would've won VA without Kaine; (c) winning swing states is not just about winning over moderates but mobilizing those marginal base voters who may just stay home. Hillary's PoC and youth vote was down in several key states. If she picked someone like Booker, who would've held moderates just as well as Kaine, but also added more PoC/youth vote - she would've won easily; (d) it simply doesn't look good to have an all-white ticket in the year 2020, when PoC make up such a large portion of the Dem party's base vote. Younger PoC (Gen-X, Millennials and younger) will not take well to an all-white ticket.

Harris is this year's Booker, with a better resume, and should be the obvious pick.

She's a star with the resume to be president. She has broad-based appeal to moderates and white women as well as WoC and others. She's tough and can take/give a punch. She's a Gen-X'er and could appeal to younger generations.

Leftists may not like her, but she did support M4A in the primaries and has moved left since her time as AG.

of why she would be a disastrous choice. Right on, Celerity

Sorry I like Klobuchar fine but I think Biden already has the folks she mostly appeals to locked down with... well Biden.

She does nothing to excite the bulk of the progressive wing of the party. She does nothing to excite the bulk of the party not in Minnesota or the Midwest. She does nothing to excite most of the non-white voters in the party.

If Biden picks Klobuchar, he will not have learned a thing from Hillary’s disastrous pick of Kaine in 2016.

The first thing I thought was how she would be a lead balloon on the ticket.

She's not my preferred candidate either but if she's the choice then those 3 things are all they are focusing on. There is an argument for that strategy.

I am a progressive so I disagree with the name myself...but I digress, we win with moderates...this is not 16. Such a pick would hurt our chances with the voters we need.

All the progressives I know are busy attacking the party.

Susan Rice or Kamala Harris yes.

She is a “go-getter”.

Perfect for a VP.

She's impressive! Smart! I like more and more.

She from a reliable Democratic state and won’t put any swing states in play. Her years as a prosecutor could alienate progressives and some African Americans. Plus her attacks on Biden during the debates are a GOP attack ad that writes itself. There are better choices available.

of course i will vote for the ticket, but the whitiest white of tickets will not - in my opinion - bring out all the diverse and members of the Democratic Party (and those folks that will vote with the party though not registered).

I think the progressive vote is a lock, regardless. But to govt, a black woman would have been brilliant.

I think you have it completely backward. Joe does very will with the black vote and not so well with the progressives. How do you get that we have the progressives locked up?

Including Gretchen Whitmer, Michelle Lujan Grisham, and Kamala Harris.

Way too controversial and not her fault at all.

she smashed into Rump.

and total bonus (of course I am bit biased, lolol)

This state needs 16 years of women in charge.

Desperately.

Gary Peters is still young, so not sure how soon he will give up the seat.

He would be 68 then (74 when his next term ended if he ran again in 2026), so I have no idea, he probably, like you said, will not give it up.

I guess going into your 80's (and now into your 90's with Feinstein, Inhofe, probably Grassley, and probably Shelby, Pat Roberts is retiring, or he would have made it too) is now the norm for many, if not the majority.

Before this, there were only 4 Senators ever in US history who served in their 90's : Theodore F. Green, Carl Hayden, Robert Byrd, and Strom Thurmond (100yo and a senile lump of shit long before that) Only Hayden was still healthy and actually completely sound at the end.

Only one House Rep has ever, in US history, served into their 90's, Ralph Hall. Don Young, if he runs again in 2022, would be the 2nd. Eddie Bernice Johnson would have to run in 2022 and 2024 and then she would be the third.

If Peters runs 2 more times after this, Nessel would 70 years old 3 months after she was sworn in for the first time, if she still wanted to run. If Peters does the 'I will run when I am 79/80 years old' thing, Nessel is basically out of a chance of ever serving in the Senate, unless the other seat opens up (which we assume will be taken by Whitmer, and she is younger than Nessel, so no chance there, unless Whitmer is a VP or a POTUS down the road.)

Senate is such a crapshoot in terms of chances to run. It is why I am so irate over McGraw, Sibelius, Yates, and Abrams (unless she is VP, which looks like her chances are not so good atm as they appeared to be earlier) plus Begich in Alaska, all refusing to run, especially McGraw and Sibelius, as those (TN and KS) are open seats and both would have been the favourites to win in this insanely crucial year. Bollier may win in KS, but is not nearly as sure a bet as Sibelius would have been, and Mackler looks to be getting pounded by the MAGAt scum Hagerty atm in TN. Tim McGraw could have won in 2018 as well, but refused to run then as well. It is looking like he was full of shit when he started saying 15 plus years ago he wanted to run for Senate in TN when he was 50 (he is 53 now, and now will have to face incumbents who will be entrenched as hell, grrr, if he changes his mind in the future)

I want someone young and exciting that can bring in great energy

She is qualified, has the Senate and world experience, and comes from the Midwest (careful--so does Mike Pence). She doesn't bring a lot of the negatives to the table that some of the others do, and she is refreshingly lacking the "hey, lookit me!" self-promotion attitude that some of her competition does. On the other hand, detractors point to this as a "lack of dynamism."

We will know way more when the vetting process is over, and that will take months, considering the number being considered--as it should! When Biden makes his choice, it should be one he is completely happy with, and knows he will not regret.

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