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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/21/us/politics/tara-reade-credentials.htmlDefense lawyers in California are reviewing criminal cases in which Tara Reade, the former Senate aide who has accused Joseph R. Biden Jr. of sexual assault, served as an expert witness on domestic violence, concerned that she misrepresented her educational credentials in court.
Then known as Alexandra McCabe, Ms. Reade testified as a government witness in Monterey County courts for nearly a decade, describing herself as an expert in the dynamics of domestic violence who had counseled hundreds of victims.
But lawyers who had faced off against her in court began raising questions about the legitimacy of her testimony, and the verdicts that followed, after news reports this week that Antioch University had disputed her claim of receiving a bachelors degree from its Seattle campus.
The public defenders office in Monterey County has begun scrutinizing cases involving Ms. Reade and compiling a list of clients who may have been affected by her testimony, according to Jeremy Dzubay, an assistant public defender in the office.
Roland Soltesz, a criminal defense lawyer, says he believes Ms. Reades testimony made a significant difference in the outcome of the 2018 trial of his client Victoria Ramirez. Both Ms. Ramirez and her co-defendant, Jennifer Vasquez, received life sentences for attempted murder, arson and armed robbery.
People have been convicted based upon this, and thats wrong, said Mr. Soltesz, adding that he could care less about the politics of this whole thing.
Ms. Reade maintains that she has an undergraduate degree, saying the school has no record of her graduating because of special arrangements put in place to protect her from her ex-husband. She sent The Times a screenshot of a transcript showing her with 35 course credits, her department as BA Completion and nothing listed under date conferred or degree conferred. According to the photo, she entered school on Oct. 2, 2000.
Ms. Reade says she received her degree through the private assistance of the schools then-president, Tullisse Murdock. She says she never received a diploma or requested one since she was fast-tracked to law school.
The president took it from the registrar and did it herself for complete confidentiality, she said in an interview.
But Ms. Hamilton, the Antioch spokeswoman, told The Times that it had spoken with Ms. Murdock, and that there was no such special arrangement with Ms. Reade. It takes 180 credits to graduate, and students earn up to a maximum of 45 for life experience or prior studies, according to the schools website.
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Wow, lying always gets you in the end. That whole thing about hidden program, is bullcrap, she did this thinking she could bullshit her way.
Updated : reade this email chain, she has lied and lied and lied.
Link to tweet
An Antioch University spokesperson said in a statement that Reade did not graduate and was never a faculty member. Reade attended Antioch for three academic quarters, in 2000 and part of 2001. (3 quarters, lol, no way did she get a degree in 3 quarters)
POLITICO was also provided a copy of Tara Reade's resume provided to defense lawyers. In it, she listed herself as working at Antioch as an "Ongoing Online Visiting Professor since 2007 for various Student BA packet reviews ...
saying she would "review the final papers w/students via phone and email; provide guidance for final BA
completion online and by email; mentorship and guidance to students completing BA." Antioch says Reade was never a faculty member & worked a total of "few hours" over years...
BlueLucy
(1,609 posts)This is why I never vote for candidates endorsed by Rose twitter.
Cha
(297,723 posts)Dorian Gray
(13,501 posts)Is it a reference to Rose McGowan?
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)I believe the rose indicates being a member of DSA.
"Rose Twitter" - meaning people who use a rose emoji in their handle to identify as Dem Socialists.
Dorian Gray
(13,501 posts)Some days I feel more clueless than others. LOL
DenverJared
(457 posts)and obstruction of justice. Multiple counts.
Plus fraud if she received remuneration and mail fraud if she sent an invoice by mail.
Cha
(297,723 posts)la-trucker
(283 posts)Prosecutors don't like losing cases over fake expert witnesses who lie.
Cha
(297,723 posts)Lawyers shows!
grumpyduck
(6,265 posts)she was accepted as an expert witness and not questioned about her expertise by the attorneys? They just let her testify without vetting?
Hey, lawyers, I'm an expert on nuclear fusion and resulting time travel. I'll testify for you for big bucks!!!!! Call me!!!!!!
LisaL
(44,974 posts)She has a law degree, so if she was asked to produce her diploma, she presumably would have produced that. Nobody would look if she actually got a B.S. if she has a law degree.
grumpyduck
(6,265 posts)to describe their background and "prove" they are experts.
I would also think the lawyers on the other side would have looked into her background as fsr as what she claimed to be an expert at.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Scrambled eggs anyone?
jimlup
(7,968 posts)Alex4Martinez
(2,198 posts)I don't generally like to judge based on looks but in her case, she looks like a nasty lying self serving waste of air.
Cha
(297,723 posts)Just like Biden people said she didn't get fired for reporting anything(whatever the hell she said she reported).
Want to follow up with that, Chris Hayes?
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)in the mail department -- to buck it up to legislative staffers (which she claimed to be) who would answer it. She reportedly was fired from that for throwing away documentation that belonged in the files. That'd do it in any office anywhere.
Senator Biden spent little time actually in his very professionally run, woman-friendly DC office and went home after work to his family in Delaware without hitting the social scene. Busy senators like him typically have a staff of several dozen in their own offices run by managers, plus a bunch more high-level specialized professional committee staffers elsewhere. Entry-level clerical employees might get a chance to briefly interact with the Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee at the office Christmas party, also typical.
Heck yes, Hayes should follow up with that.
Cha
(297,723 posts)at the time, Hortensis. Thank you.
It really makes me furious that Reade would falsely attack Joe Biden with such Ugly Smears.. and for what?! For Money? Because she wants him to drop out so she thinks her candidate would replace him?! For the love of Putin? WTH?!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)trouble spot. Another episode in her life.
Btw, I believe all the women who accused Clinton turned out when journalists investigated to have been worked on by political agents, who used various techniques like pretending friendship, coaching and sometimes coercion to persuade them to perform as needed. They were typically conservative and of course of poor character, and like this piece of work their stories typically changed dramatically over the years.
Like "AKA Jane Roe" as it turns out, though of course she said she made that group pay her.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)It's called Borderline Personality Disorder.
These people are poison.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)to hold jobs for more than a few months at most (Biden's about 8-9 months), and her family hasn't all given up and become estranged, so not full-blown. But yes. A lifelong pattern of roublemaking, typically hurting herself more than others.
We had a case in our neighborhood, GA Bible belt. Within 15 minutes of meeting her for the first time and sitting chatting, she was, astonishingly, trying to drip poison on me, apparently choosing to skip the typical "offer friendship and then be betrayed by" steps to go right to vindictiveness. Her husband of many years believed God sent him to take care of her.
la-trucker
(283 posts)to destroy Biden.
It landed like a cow pie right on top of the people who launched it.
calimary
(81,511 posts)"It landed like a cow pie right on top of the people who launched it."
A metaphor of true marvelousness!
Cha
(297,723 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)And it backfired.
Orangepeel
(13,933 posts)weird
DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)Where does she say she went?
Orangepeel
(13,933 posts)Cha
(297,723 posts)of Suits.
DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)So I wonder if it has been verified that she graduated from law school. Also, did she take the bar? Did she work for a law firm?
Cha
(297,723 posts)she lies about so much.
csziggy
(34,138 posts)And did not find her under Tara Reade, Tara McCabe, or Alexandra McCabe - the name she was using as an "expert witness" according to the articles.
I suspect that either her law degree is not authentic or that she was not able to pass the bar. She is listed on LinkedIn as an "Independent Legal Services Professional."
Edited to add:
by Catrina Coyle
Summer/Fall 2008
Being a homeless or injured pet is no fun on any day, but thanks to dedicated staff and volunteers at Animal Friends Rescue Project, Monterey and Santa Cruz counties are pretty good places to be rescued.
The Pacific Grove-based rescue group was started 10 years ago by Monica Rua and Kelly and Dave Lehrian, and is now under the leadership of Alexandra McCabe. Since its inception, AFRP has placed more than 11,380 pets in loving homes. Cats, dogs and rabbits that need extra attention are pulled from local animal shelters, treated, cared for in foster homes, and eventually adopted.
McCabe arrived last November from Seattle, where she had finished law school and was working for a domestic violence nonprofit. She calls AFRP her dream job as she provides a quick tour of the purple-painted adoption center on Lighthouse Avenue.
https://carmelmagazine.com/archive/08fa/local-pets-adoption
But then I found a lawsuit against her:
Case Summary
On 03/14/2016 SOUTHWESTERN LAW SCHOOL filed a Contract - Debt Collection lawsuit against MCCABE, ALEXANDRA T. This case was filed in Los Angeles County Superior Courts, Norwalk Courthouse located in Los Angeles, California. The Judge overseeing this case is JOSEPH R. PORRAS. The case status is Disposed - Judgment Entered.
10/04/2016
JUDGMENT ENTERED AS A FINAL DISPOSITION ON 11/04/16 . FOR (SOUTHWESTERN LAW SCHOOL) FKA (SOUTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF LAW) . AGAINST (MCCABE, ALEXANDRA T) AKA (MCCABE, ALEXANDRA TARA) . PRINCIPAL $ 19019.00 . ATTORNEY FEES $ 960.57 . INTEREST $ 2379.36 . COSTS $ 435.00 . TOTAL $ 22,793.93 .
https://unicourt.com/case/ca-la1-southwestern-law-school-vs-mccabe-alexandra-t-1155731
If she graduated from a Seattle law school by 2008, why did she end up owing Southwestern Law School enough to be sued over in 2016?
There is a puff piece about her being an alumni from Seattle Law School in their publication (on page 34): https://digitalcommons.law.seattleu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=1065&context=thelawyer
She said she also worked for Leon Panetta - I don't believe that has been mentioned in any of the recent articles?
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)What person gets themselves a law degree and never takes the bar exam and pass on making a shedload of money.......instead of sofa surfing begging for money, something does not add up whatsoever.
obamanut2012
(26,142 posts)Because he had had bad credit a few years earlier. So, I would love to know what was on her bar app that (heheheh) barred her from taking the exam, or did she just not take it? And, did she even graduate with a JD???
csziggy
(34,138 posts)And she got her law degree under an alias? I bet you have to prove who you are before taking the bar.
obamanut2012
(26,142 posts)You can technically get into some grad schools without a bachelor's, but that is rare and far between, especially for a JD. And, even if she graduated with a JD, did she pass the bar? If she didn't, then she could work as a para but not as an attorney, except in Louisiana.
LisaL
(44,974 posts)LisaL
(44,974 posts)Sure sounds like Law School believed she had a degree from Antioch University.
"Reached for comment by the Weekly, Reade says that the CNN reporting is incorrect, and that the statement from Antioch University is incomplete. She says that her degree from Antioch University in Seattle was conferred under special circumstances by former Chancellor Toni Murdock. Reade had recently changed her identity following the separation from what she describes as a deeply abusive ex-husband. In order to fulfill her graduation requirements Reade says she had to present coursework completed prior to her identity change. Her account is corroborated by an unofficial transcript from the Seattle University School of Law, which lists Antioch University as Reades prior degree granting institution."
http://www.montereycountyweekly.com/blogs/news_blog/convictions-could-be-challenged-as-defense-attorneys-question-tara-reade-s-credentials/article_89c8bfcc-9bb2-11ea-826b-7776b2cd779e.html
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)You need 3 years minimum for a BA undergraduate.
I'm betting Reade either just told them she had one and they didn't check or she falsify that as well.
Orangepeel
(13,933 posts)Seattle University School of Law confirmed that Ms. Reade graduated with a J.D. degree in 2004. The school only considers accepting students with bachelors degrees, according to its website. But it would not share what degree Ms. Reade presented with her initial application, citing federal privacy standards.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/21/us/politics/tara-reade-credentials.html?action=click&module=Most%20Popular&pgtype=Homepage
DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Oh, wait, that's not what you said....
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)Historic NY
(37,453 posts)How did she get into law school w/o producing a diploma?
nolabear
(41,991 posts)That means she and I were there at the same time, though I was getting an MA Psych and apparently she was finishing her BA. I had also finished my BA there.
I knew Toni Murdochat least as well as any student. Its not a big place. And I was pretty well acquainted with their policies. They did take a certain number of outside credits but those numbers dont add up.
And I have NEVER heard of a domestic violence dispensation. I mean, they do try to accomodate people but theyre an accredited educational institution. They play by a very strict book.
And no, I have no sense of ever having seen her but then why would I?
Does give me a good laugh though!
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Her story is unraveling and if she hadn't made such nasty accusations, damaging not only the #MeToo movement, but also potentially Joe Biden, who, by almost universal accounts, is a good man, I'd feel bad for her. But I don't. She brought this on herself.
phylny
(8,389 posts)35 credits does not a degree make!
yardwork
(61,712 posts)These are just lies on top of lies on top of lies. She got caught.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Hav
(5,969 posts)People might actually take a look. That's not a good idea if you've lived a life full of lies and deceit and as it turns out now, being shown to be manipulative and known for fabricating bs.
So she wanted to prove she graduated by some super secret special arrangement and all she had was a document of her having 35 out of 180 credits? Granted, that's more than she had for her case against Biden but it's still hilarious.
obamanut2012
(26,142 posts)And showing their ass, and it's amazing the people who buy into their lies and craziness, and who refuse to admit it when they are shown evidence of how horrible the person is. I have an ex exactly like Reade, and they are scary AF, and the folks who believe them and their lies are even scarier.
Beakybird
(3,333 posts)I never heard about Panetta before. They should nail her for this as well if it's not true.
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)I am not sure she realise how much shit she is actually in here.
DFW
(54,445 posts)The more she attempts to worm her way out of the failed effort to "Franken" Joe Biden, the more she will realize that whatever she was paid, it will not cover her legal bills if she gets a serious, fact-backed perjury charge leveled against her. Republican promises to pay her legal bills will vanish in the mist if she threatens to rat on them, and the perjury charges will not go away.
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)This is her con trick.....claims, the domestic abuse hiding angle and then says it can't be seen because it was done in secret to protect her. The whole abuse thing by her husband I think is a great big fat lie too so she can carry on the charade.
dalton99a
(81,599 posts)sunonmars
(8,656 posts)An Antioch University spokesperson said in a statement that Reade did not graduate and was never a faculty member. Reade attended Antioch for three academic quarters, in 2000 and part of 2001. (3 quarters, lol, no way did she get a degree in 3 quarters)
POLITICO was also provided a copy of Tara Reade's resume provided to defense lawyers. In it, she listed herself as working at Antioch as an "Ongoing Online Visiting Professor since 2007 for various Student BA packet reviews ...
saying she would "review the final papers w/students via phone and email; provide guidance for final BA
completion online and by email; mentorship and guidance to students completing BA." Antioch says Reade was never a faculty member & worked a total of "few hours" over years...
dalton99a
(81,599 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,487 posts)Same people who trashed Al Franken.
Peacetrain
(22,879 posts)DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)the DNC.
Has AOC made a statement today?
mercuryblues
(14,543 posts)My bet is, yes she can.
10 years of "expert witnessing" lawyers are going to have a field day.