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MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:44 AM May 2020

Last time I went to the supermarket, I saw a Tesla in the parking lot,

taking up two parking spaces. Parked right on the line separating the two spaces. Right near the store entrance, too.

I didn't get mad, though. I mean, the owner's saving the planet, right? That's a thoughtful thing to do, right?

Hmm...

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Last time I went to the supermarket, I saw a Tesla in the parking lot, (Original Post) MineralMan May 2020 OP
Probably just social distancing? we can do it May 2020 #1
Yeah...that must be it. MineralMan May 2020 #2
Thoughtful yes, but not in a good way. Bully for you for not getting mad. Me, most happy with c-rational May 2020 #3
How rude leftieNanner May 2020 #4
I don't know Tesla models, but this was a large sedan MineralMan May 2020 #6
Saw one last summer with gullwing doors happybird May 2020 #25
Let's just say that the Tesla owner is a virtuous asshole. Beakybird May 2020 #5
Hmm...I think that's an oxymoron or something. MineralMan May 2020 #9
That Tesla owner, Miguelito Loveless May 2020 #39
Oops. I meant that Tesla owner Beakybird May 2020 #40
Thanks for the clarification. Miguelito Loveless May 2020 #41
I'm Dunn rwiliff May 2020 #42
*snort* Miguelito Loveless May 2020 #44
Never understood why people do this...but don't feel bad if they find a big key mark upon return. tritsofme May 2020 #7
Well, I don't have a Tesla HAB911 May 2020 #8
Yeah. I park my 2020 KIA Soul way out in the lot, too. MineralMan May 2020 #12
Didn't use the parking assist judeling May 2020 #10
Cool feature. MineralMan May 2020 #14
It's easier to do when you design your car for software updates judeling May 2020 #20
First, if he was really saving the planet, he (ok, or she) could do it for... TreasonousBastard May 2020 #11
Really? Newland56 May 2020 #24
If you want to get down to absolute numbers... TreasonousBastard May 2020 #43
So.... Newland56 May 2020 #46
New car parking. Liberal In Texas May 2020 #13
Yeah. That's where I park for the first few months MineralMan May 2020 #15
I understand not wanting door bangs, FoxNewsSucks May 2020 #16
I make a point of parking all my cars Miguelito Loveless May 2020 #18
+1 happybird May 2020 #26
One data point Miguelito Loveless May 2020 #17
You know, I've never actually seen a charging station in any MineralMan May 2020 #32
I doubt you would, as you are a decent sort Miguelito Loveless May 2020 #38
I park my nice (expensive) car far away from the store; it allows me a bit of extra exercise Mr. Ected May 2020 #19
Just google "parking jerks" and enjoy the resulting articles csziggy May 2020 #21
I'm confused Newland56 May 2020 #22
No, it's not about electric vehicles. MineralMan May 2020 #31
Might be Newland56 May 2020 #36
I once went to a restaurant and saw a Camero parked like that MissMillie May 2020 #23
That's a good note! I may have to use that :) Maru Kitteh May 2020 #33
Brilliant! Totally Tunsie May 2020 #45
Last time I went to the supermarket, I saw a Tesla recharging. maxsolomon May 2020 #27
No chargers at my supermarket. MineralMan May 2020 #29
Notice a lot of asshole Tesla drivers in SoCal rufus dog May 2020 #28
I live in San Francisco the place is swarming with Tesla's and the drivers are jerks kimbutgar May 2020 #30
I see people shit parking their precious like that a lot. Not a tesla thing. Voltaire2 May 2020 #34
Well, see...it's OK if it's an EV, though. MineralMan May 2020 #35
no it is assholic no matter what. The only excuse I can think of is "no handicap available". Voltaire2 May 2020 #37
As one of the sixty percent of American workers that make less than forty thousand dollars a year pecosbob May 2020 #47

c-rational

(2,596 posts)
3. Thoughtful yes, but not in a good way. Bully for you for not getting mad. Me, most happy with
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:47 AM
May 2020

my truly green car - a 2000 Honda Accord in creampuff condition.

leftieNanner

(15,160 posts)
4. How rude
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:47 AM
May 2020

But if you add all the goodies to one of those cars, you can spend over $100,000. So don't you think an entitled jerk like that deserves to take two parking spaces?

Could be worse. Could have been parked in a disabled spot without a tag.

Sheesh.

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
6. I don't know Tesla models, but this was a large sedan
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:49 AM
May 2020

type of car. Probably one of the expensive ones, i suppose. Gotta protect your investment, I guess.

happybird

(4,634 posts)
25. Saw one last summer with gullwing doors
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:12 PM
May 2020

like a damn Delorian, but it was a minivan type thing. Ugh. So obnoxious. All the guys at work were going “Oooo!

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
9. Hmm...I think that's an oxymoron or something.
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:51 AM
May 2020

But, I would never call anyone an oxymoron. That would be rude.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,474 posts)
44. *snort*
Tue May 26, 2020, 03:48 PM
May 2020

As long as you accept that Dr. Loveless was Dunn as well, and NEVER a legless racist, I am fine.

P.S.

Actually, his real name was Gary Neil Miller, but now we are just showing off.

HAB911

(8,916 posts)
8. Well, I don't have a Tesla
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:50 AM
May 2020

and I don't park taking up two spaces. I do have an automobile i value as much as a Tesla and I park waaaaay out in the lot and walk. I understand why they did it, but it's rather selfish.

My problem is with people that don't care, like they have electric door openers and can't be bothered to not bash you door in. Probably Trumpers, lol.

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
12. Yeah. I park my 2020 KIA Soul way out in the lot, too.
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:52 AM
May 2020

It's in a pull-through space, so I can drive straight out, rather than backing out.

Nobody parks out there, though. Too far to walk, I guess.

judeling

(1,086 posts)
20. It's easier to do when you design your car for software updates
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:02 PM
May 2020

The thing that people don't really get is how much Tesla adds features to existing vehicles.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
11. First, if he was really saving the planet, he (ok, or she) could do it for...
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:52 AM
May 2020

around 50 grand less and still get the tax credit.

Or take a bus.

I have seen other expensive wagons parked across three (once even four!) spots. The point is simple-- my car is special and I can't take the chance that any of you serfs touch it.

This is sort of person who would never be caught dead in a Bolt.

Newland56

(73 posts)
24. Really?
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:11 PM
May 2020

So you can get a Tesla model 3 loaded up pretty well for $50k
Can you tell me where I can get a free car with dedicated super chargers coast to coast with the same kind of range plus a tax credit?

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
43. If you want to get down to absolute numbers...
Tue May 26, 2020, 03:44 PM
May 2020

First, who's really going to drive a Tesla, or anything else, coast to coast like the Cannonball Run? I know plenty of people who have driven cross country, but rarely 250 miles a day and up. Gonna need a lot of miles to find the next open charger in some places, too.

Now, you can plan such a trip without too many hassles, but why have to plan it?

Back to the environmental angle-- you do not need a Tesla (or Porsche, for that matter) to show your environmental cred. Its more like showing off. Toyota and a few others make nice electric cars. And there's always that Bolt.

Tesla's tax credit is over most places, btw.

Newland56

(73 posts)
46. So....
Wed May 27, 2020, 06:47 AM
May 2020

So you are saying that the only reason to buy a Tesla is to show off?
I think there might be more to the picture...
For me, I wanted to support the only company that doesn’t make gasoline cars.
At the time I purchased my first Tesla they were expensive but I wanted to support them.
To date Toyota does not have an electric only car.
There are not many all electric choices that have 200+ miles of range.
Is elon musk an oddball that makes some poor choices? Yup...but that doesn’t take away from the cars he makes.
There really isn’t another car maker that offers what Tesla does and now Tesla offers vehicles that have a price parity with other manufacturers only the specs far far exceed those other manufacturers in terms of quality, safety, recharge stations, resale value, etc etc etc
The claim was that you could buy another vehicle for 50k less and still get the tax credit.
Im asking where can I get an electric vehicle for 50k less than a Tesla model 3 long range and claim the tax credit?
The answer is that that doesn’t exist and it appears the point you were trying to make is that Tesla’s are only for rich people and that is far far from the truth.
You can get a Tesla model 3 for nearly the same price as a Chevy bolt and have a nicer car with more range that is safer, holds its value better and has its own coast to coast charging network.

Liberal In Texas

(13,580 posts)
13. New car parking.
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:53 AM
May 2020

Doesn't want door dents. But he/she is a jerk. Just park out in the north forty of the lot.



FoxNewsSucks

(10,435 posts)
16. I understand not wanting door bangs,
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:56 AM
May 2020

but you don't have to be an asshole like that to avoid it. I put over 200k on my cars and they look just as good when I sell them as when I bought them. I don't park next to other people, because there are too many jerks who open their doors into your car. Not maliciously, just carelessly.

So I park way out in the parking lot. I also look for spaces at the end of the row, so I can move further away from the next space. It's not that difficult to avoid door bangs without being an asshole about it.

I've also noticed that frequently when I go straight to the far end of the lot, I still walk in the door of the store sooner than the people circling around trying to find a spot close to the door.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,474 posts)
18. I make a point of parking all my cars
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:58 AM
May 2020

in the hinterlands with no others beside me, and walking in.

No door dings, plus exercise.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,474 posts)
17. One data point
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:57 AM
May 2020

I have owned an EV since 2014, and a Tesla since 2018, and run into people parked in EV charging spots at least once a month. The most fun one was a cluster of pickups blocking all the chargers in Hickory NC, just because.

There are jerks in every sub-group of humanity.

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
32. You know, I've never actually seen a charging station in any
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:35 PM
May 2020

parking lot I've been to. So, I'm not familiar with what you describe. I wouldn't park in such a space, though.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,474 posts)
38. I doubt you would, as you are a decent sort
Tue May 26, 2020, 01:25 PM
May 2020

This has happened a number of times at Tesla superchargers, though it also happens at other chargers. We refer to a gas car in an EV slot as "Icing" from ICE (internal combustion engine).

We also have trucks "roll coal" on us, which is were they have a switch in their truck that sprays diesel into the exhaust, causing billows of black smoke. So, the truck will swoop in front of you, "roll coal" and then block you when you try to change lanes or pass. I have only had it happen once (in my Leaf), but it happens enough in the EV community, that it is not exactly uncommon. It happens more with the Prius, the Leaf and any model Tesla, as these cars have a distinct look on the highway. Yes, it is illegal, and a few people have been fined. It has also started declining with Teslas, as word gets out about the 8 cameras on board used for autopilot can now actively record if the owner chooses. This captures license plates and illegal acts.


We also get our share of aggressive drivers tailgating and brake-checking us. I had one "semi-hostile" encounter with a fellow while charging who wanted to know why I would drive a "super expensive pussy golf cart", so I offered his a test ride. After a 15 minute ride (never exceeding the speed limit, but getting to it scorchingly fast, I pointed out that my car had likely cost $20K less than his truck new, but mine only cost 3¢ a mile for fuel (this was when diesel was around $3 in my area). I won't say I had a convert, but at least he was far friendlier at the end of the ride.

All that said, I must now also make a point that I do not approve, endorse, or in any way agree of Elon Musk's behavior, pronouncements, or pandering of the last few months, and find his actions very upsetting and divisive. Between his actions and Michael Moore's poorly researched and damaging Planet of the Humans, it has been a bad time for green energy and EVs.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
19. I park my nice (expensive) car far away from the store; it allows me a bit of extra exercise
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:58 AM
May 2020

And isolates the vehicle so it can be seen if tampered with and is out of the main flow of traffic.

Generally, in my experience, people that take up two spaces are egocentric buttholes who want you to take a back seat to them and their importance on this planet, even if their car is a piece of junk. Kind of like the people who vote for Trump, actually.

Newland56

(73 posts)
22. I'm confused
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:06 PM
May 2020

I’m confused
Is this post something negative about the all electric vehicle?
Is it something bad about the person driving the car?
Would the post have been made if it was an F150 or a mustang? Would it have been made if it was a Chevy volt or bolt?
I once saw this same thing with a visualize world peace bumper sticker.
Me personally....if someone is a social asshole I’m glad they are driving an environmentally friendly vehicle instead of a hummer instead of being a social AND environmental asshole

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
31. No, it's not about electric vehicles.
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:32 PM
May 2020

It's about drivers. Cars don't decide for themselves where to park. Drivers do.

Teslas aren't just EVs. They're also lifestyle vehicles. Big pickups are often parked to take up two spaces. That's no surprise. Happens all the time. It's their drivers who decide where and how to park.

Teslas are quite rare in the Twin Cities of Minnesota, for some reason. I see very few of them, actually.
there are tons of Priuses, though. I don't notice most EVs, really. I do notice people hogging two parking spaces, though.

Thanks for taking the time to reply to my post. You seem nice.

Newland56

(73 posts)
36. Might be
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:42 PM
May 2020

Could be true but coming from the 2 Prius’s I’ve had the Tesla’s total cost of ownership is on par with them and worlds better in safety and environmental impact.

No oil changes
No maintenance
Less than half the fossil fuel consumption
Able to carry more passengers and cargo
And only about $10k more than similarly speced Prius

MissMillie

(38,582 posts)
23. I once went to a restaurant and saw a Camero parked like that
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:06 PM
May 2020

(back in the late 80s)

taking up two spaces in a crowded parking lot.

I didn't park anywhere near it--managed to find a space far away from it when someone left the restaurant.

Before I went in, I left a note on the windshield. Something to the effect of, "Sorry about dinging your car. I was only trying to park my own car in a designated spot."


I hope the owner of the Camero spent considerable time and energy looking for a ding that wasn't there.

maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
27. Last time I went to the supermarket, I saw a Tesla recharging.
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:18 PM
May 2020

MEN worry about their cars getting dinged by doors, regardless of the power source. It is ever thus.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
28. Notice a lot of asshole Tesla drivers in SoCal
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:22 PM
May 2020

Similar to the BMW drivers in the 90's meme. In SoCal you DO NOT drive in the bike lane, one Tesla driver drove 1/4 mile in one during rush hour to squeeze by the rest of us. Then a day later I pull up to a stop, getting ready to drive through, guy in a Tesla rolls up and turns left in front of me, never stopped, then flips ME the bird.

After that one I had to call a friend who is a Tesla owner and ask, "when they give you the keys are you forced to watch a video on how to be an inconsiderate asshole?"


kimbutgar

(21,211 posts)
30. I live in San Francisco the place is swarming with Tesla's and the drivers are jerks
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:31 PM
May 2020

I can’t tell you the number of times I have been cut off driving in the streets and freeway. Taking two parking spaces is no shocker to me.

And now Musk is threatening to take production out of Hayward and move to Oklahoma or Texas. most of the buyers are in blue states and he will have to pay more to ship the cars to these states.

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
35. Well, see...it's OK if it's an EV, though.
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:42 PM
May 2020

I mean, people who own those always have the good of the environment in mind, right?

That's a good thing, right?

Voltaire2

(13,194 posts)
37. no it is assholic no matter what. The only excuse I can think of is "no handicap available".
Tue May 26, 2020, 01:03 PM
May 2020

I have no idea what your point was. Assholes abound. They come in many flavors.

pecosbob

(7,544 posts)
47. As one of the sixty percent of American workers that make less than forty thousand dollars a year
Wed May 27, 2020, 07:17 AM
May 2020

and probably couldn't or shouldn't afford a new Tesla, I might say that one could even add conspicuous consumption into the balance of the equation.

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