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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow do racist cops persist in their jobs for years?
I'm thinking about this from a workplace perspective. Most of us work in very diverse workplaces. You show up for an interview and you have no idea who is going to be interviewing you, or what questions they will ask, or what kind of test you might be asked to take as you are screened for the job.
Being racist is a big red flag in most workplaces. Someone with a racist attitude working in an office might get hired anyway, but after a while everyone is going to pick up on it.
With a job as sensitive as being a police officer, it seems like there would be lots of opportunity for their attitudes to come out on the job. Their fellow officers and supervisors are going to know that they are racist.
But unlike other jobs, it seems police can be really egregious in their racism and still not lose their jobs. Racist to the point of racial profiling, inappropriate use of force, and even murder.
The profession where racism has the most potential for harm is the same one where anything goes. Racist cops are not weeded out. They are protected by their unions and by each other.
Something needs to change, and fast.
UncleTomsEvilBrother
(945 posts)...discussions that need to be taking place right now.
dalton99a
(81,534 posts)They can do whatever they want to minorities with impunity
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,362 posts)brewens
(13,599 posts)the country are racist, how high can it be in the military and police? maybe well over half at least. They all cover for each other.
dalton99a
(81,534 posts)mitch96
(13,914 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,761 posts)And policing tends to attract people with authoritarian attitudes in the first place. More importantly, if the dominant culture of a particular PD is racist, officers who don't feel that way themselves will be intimidated into keeping their opinions to themselves. There is a lot of pressure to conform. In the case of the Minneapolis PD - which has had a racist culture for decades - the very powerful police union, headed by that Trumpist asshat Bob Kroll, has been instrumental in perpetrating that culture. It will be very difficult to change the culture without doing something about Kroll and the union.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)They intimidate the non-racist ones into silence. When racism is the dominant culture where someone works, the anti-racist is the one who is odd man out. I was in several jobs where the culture was so racist, I had to leave the jobs. I know that feeling. You have no recourse to do anything about the racists when even your boss is that way too and a lot of times, that is how it is. You have no chance of fighting the racism back.
Of course, nowadays, things are different if you can reach enough people online. There is at least a chance of finding a way to expose them online and hope the internet will take up the fight. That is the only possible hope an anti-racist person might could have is to expose the racist culture where they are in the court of public opinion.
Unfortunately, until there is video bad enough to wake people up, most of the time even that doesn't pique people's interest enough to fight racism on any normal day.
That is the biggest problem.
Most of the time, it is hard to get people to try to fight racism in everyday life, even the internet has to have video of something extreme happening before being willing to fight it. So, anyone living in a predominantly racist culture, who is financially unable to up and move out of an area, is usually intimidated into silence and a hopeless feeling that only gets worse over time.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)You are thinking the one guy who got taken into custody is the only one with that kind of racist attitude. Nope. It's part of police department culture in some precincts and in some entire areas.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)Looks like President of the Minneapolis police union support Trump, no wonder Minneapolis has such problems
Hav
(5,969 posts)a white supremacist himself who also discriminated against AA police officers. No idea how he ever got this job, no idea why he still has it.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213506023
SharonAnn
(13,777 posts)Alex4Martinez
(2,198 posts)Trump to police:
""When you see these thugs being thrown into the back of a paddy wagon, you just seen them thrown in, rough. I said, Please dont be too nice," he said.
"When you guys put somebody in the car and youre protecting their head you know, the way you put their hand over [their head]," Trump continued, mimicking the motion. "Like, 'Dont hit their head and theyve just killed somebody, dont hit their head.' I said, 'You can take the hand away, OK?'"
dalton99a
(81,534 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)RKP5637
(67,111 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,745 posts)happybird
(4,609 posts)He was a cop for 17 years before they finally got rid of him. Then he bought a bar, which is how I met him/worked for him. I quit pretty quickly. On top of being a racist, he was a homophobe, a misogynist, a horrible alcoholic, and mentally unstable.
A real gem of a guy.
When he was a cop, they just shuffled him between departments whenever there was a problem with his behavior. Passed him along for another PD or precinct to deal with. He worked for at least 4 different PDs in 2 states over those 17 years. I think part of it is strong protection from their union.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)So many of them just kept getting moved around to new parishes.
moondust
(19,993 posts)Lt. Bob Kroll, president of the Police Officers Federation of Minneapolis, spoke at a Trump rally in October 2019, saying The Obama administration and the handcuffing and oppression of police was despicable:
https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2020/05/bob-kroll-minneapolis-warrior-police-training/
Another is Patrick Lynch, President of the Patrolmen's Benevolent Association of the City of New York. After the autopsy of Eric Garner, who died as a result of a choke hold in July 2014 while selling loose cigarettes, he defended the actions of the NYPD officers.
The racists probably get plenty of protection from these assholes.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,869 posts)You don't snitch on fellow officers.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)I mean, fucking duh.
Initech
(100,087 posts)And how time and time again they win because they run unopposed. Here it is:
Aristus
(66,409 posts)impenetrable...