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writes3000

(4,734 posts)
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 05:12 PM Jun 2020

George Will: "No One Should Want Four More Years Of This"

“The nation’s downward spiral into acrimony and sporadic anarchy has had many causes much larger than the small man who is the great exacerbator of them. Most of the causes predate his presidency, and most will survive its January terminus. The measures necessary for restoration of national equilibrium are many and will be protracted far beyond his removal. One such measure must be the removal of those in Congress who, unlike the sycophantic mediocrities who cosset him in the White House, will not disappear ‘magically,’ as Eric Trump said the coronavirus would. Voters must dispatch his congressional enablers, especially the senators who still gambol around his ankles with a canine hunger for petting.”

“In life’s unforgiving arithmetic, we are the sum of our choices. Congressional Republicans have made theirs for more than 1,200 days. We cannot know all the measures necessary to restore the nation’s domestic health and international standing, but we know the first step: Senate Republicans must be routed, as condign punishment for their Vichyite collaboration.”

https://politicalwire.com/2020/06/01/no-one-should-want-four-more-years-of-this/

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George Will: "No One Should Want Four More Years Of This" (Original Post) writes3000 Jun 2020 OP
I am in complete agreement with George Will on this topic. CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2020 #1
Wow, look at all those fancy words! edbermac Jun 2020 #2
Mr. Will doesn't know how to talk to them. CaptYossarian Jun 2020 #11
"condign" caraher Jun 2020 #12
Mine, too! :-) Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2020 #50
I used to read George Will's column in Newsweek Mr.Bill Jun 2020 #13
I Enjoy Reading George Will - He Has Been On the Anti Trump and Anti GOP Train For a Long Time Indykatie Jun 2020 #25
Mr. Bill......... Upthevibe Jun 2020 #36
Thank you for your kind words. Mr.Bill Jun 2020 #38
George Will always writes and speaks wnylib Jun 2020 #15
Everything higher that a third grade level vocabulary go over most Blue_true Jun 2020 #28
Okay George. jaxexpat Jun 2020 #35
I'm not one of Will's biggest fans but he's right on this time. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #3
Low-rent Lear Mz Pip Jun 2020 #34
"...Senate Republicans must be routed, as condign punishment for their Vichyite collaboration." kentuck Jun 2020 #4
yup 90-percent Jun 2020 #8
Senate Republicans must be routed, as condign punishment for their Vichyite collaboration." elleng Jun 2020 #5
yes yes yes 90-percent Jun 2020 #9
Ditto! elleng Jun 2020 #18
This was my favorite line KS Toronado Jun 2020 #14
I've been saying the same thing a little differently FakeNoose Jun 2020 #33
I have always called him UpInArms Jun 2020 #6
He has been writing negatively about wnylib Jun 2020 #17
I have been reading Will since the early 80s ... UpInArms Jun 2020 #51
The Buffalo News used to carry wnylib Jun 2020 #53
Between George Will and David Gergen UpInArms Jun 2020 #54
I always thought that William F. Buckley was wnylib Jun 2020 #55
Voters must dispatch his congressional enablers, especially the senators who still gambol around his malaise Jun 2020 #7
Thank you George, BittyJenkins Jun 2020 #10
White Racism goes back before George Will. He has always hated Trump JI7 Jun 2020 #16
I have long disagreed with George Will, but I have never viewed his writing as Blue_true Jun 2020 #29
I know what you mean about the imperialism which is more a neo con thing JI7 Jun 2020 #37
Like Hillary wisely pointed out in 2016, "laws don't change what is in a person's heart". Blue_true Jun 2020 #41
"Vichyite collaboration" Heh. Will gets this one right. yellowcanine Jun 2020 #19
I chuckled there also JDC Jun 2020 #22
Republicans no longer listen to George Will. 33taw Jun 2020 #20
He is one of those who invited the crazies into the house to help Blue_true Jun 2020 #30
Exactly, he has ZERO influence on anyone n/t hibbing Jun 2020 #39
Say What?! gilligan Jun 2020 #21
George Will was a Republican The Finn Al Analysis Jun 2020 #23
Cheesy crumpets, Batman! Very partisan George is finally embarrassed by Republican shenanigans! struggle4progress Jun 2020 #24
George Will got on the anti-trump train AFTER he took a major role in planning,funding and building BamaRefugee Jun 2020 #26
Shit I don't even want four more DAYS of this! Initech Jun 2020 #27
Hell, I don't even want seven more months of it. nt Blue_true Jun 2020 #31
Not an overtly evil man, plimsoll Jun 2020 #32
The Great Exacerbator" . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2020 #40
Back at ya, George Will. Paladin Jun 2020 #42
"the sycophantic mediocrities who cosset him in the White House" lambchopp59 Jun 2020 #43
I never wanted a single second of this. warmfeet Jun 2020 #44
George Will Master Wordsmith aquamarina Jun 2020 #45
Kick dalton99a Jun 2020 #46
Hell has officially frozen over. SergeStorms Jun 2020 #47
No George, I'm sorry- You're the man who sees God at the last moment of your life and then tries to NBachers Jun 2020 #48
This 👆🏼 UpInArms Jun 2020 #52
George Will is a wordsmith Martin Eden Jun 2020 #49

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
11. Mr. Will doesn't know how to talk to them.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 05:39 PM
Jun 2020

They would become confused if he merely cleared his throat.

Mr.Bill

(24,293 posts)
13. I used to read George Will's column in Newsweek
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 05:41 PM
Jun 2020

even though I seldom agreed with him. I read him to expand my vocabulary. In every column there were usually several words I had to look up, and I was the editor of my high school newspaper and was named the outstanding English student at my graduation. At nearly 67 I'm getting rusty, though.

Upthevibe

(8,051 posts)
36. Mr. Bill.........
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 07:00 PM
Jun 2020

....very cool about your high school English accomplishments. I've always been very interested in English and Journalism.



Mr.Bill

(24,293 posts)
38. Thank you for your kind words.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 07:05 PM
Jun 2020

I never went to college and never had a career in Journalism, although my first paying job at age 15 was writing high school sports stories for a local weekly paper. I got 50 cents per column inch. My Journalism teacher got me the job as a college buddy of his was the Sports Editor at the weekly paper.

wnylib

(21,466 posts)
15. George Will always writes and speaks
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 05:50 PM
Jun 2020

like that. He follows the tradition of old style intellectual or pseudointellectual consertvatism. Occasionally, after translating his articles into English, I actually agree with him. But that is really quite rare. This is one of the rare occasions when I do agree.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
28. Everything higher that a third grade level vocabulary go over most
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 06:21 PM
Jun 2020

if their heads.

Will makes good point, abeit with the occasionally word cannon blasting.

My issue with him and other conservatives that have turned into virulent Never-Trumpers, is once we are through this and the country has been stabilized, will they admit that we were right about a lot of the issues that we have debated them on.

jaxexpat

(6,831 posts)
35. Okay George.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 06:55 PM
Jun 2020

There's no need to denigrate the French. Vichy indeed. Republicans have not been invaded by gloating nazis. They invited the nazis into American politics. Will can't even apologize for the gop without deflecting to others. Own it Will, you are culpable. You helped provide cover for these atrocities. Sins beyond your small imagination. And monstrous ego.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,705 posts)
3. I'm not one of Will's biggest fans but he's right on this time.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 05:20 PM
Jun 2020

I also love his writing even when I don't agree with him. "The senators who still gambol around his ankles with a canine hunger for petting.” LOL! The complete op-ed is here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/no-one-should-want-four-more-years-of-this-taste-of-ashes/2020/06/01/1a80ecf4-a425-11ea-bb20-ebf0921f3bbd_story.html

Gotta love the intro:

This unraveling presidency began with the Crybaby-in-Chief banging his spoon on his highchair tray to protest a photograph — a photograph — showing that his inauguration crowd the day before had been smaller than the one four years previous. Since then, this weak person’s idea of a strong person, this chest-pounding advertisement of his own gnawing insecurities, this low-rent Lear raging on his Twitter-heath has proven that the phrase malignant buffoon is not an oxymoron.

kentuck

(111,097 posts)
4. "...Senate Republicans must be routed, as condign punishment for their Vichyite collaboration."
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 05:23 PM
Jun 2020

Well said!

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
33. I've been saying the same thing a little differently
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 06:37 PM
Jun 2020

... There are no GOP incumbents who deserve to be re-elected. Not one.



UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
6. I have always called him
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 05:25 PM
Jun 2020

George Will You Just Shut the F*** Up ...

Cannot believe he has been finally illuminated

wnylib

(21,466 posts)
17. He has been writing negatively about
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 05:55 PM
Jun 2020

the orange fascist from the beginning, before election day. I rarely agree with George, but he is a true conservative and Trump is not.

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
51. I have been reading Will since the early 80s ...
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 10:06 PM
Jun 2020

The only thing that would make the Fort Worth Star redeemed was that Molly Irvin’s was published every Tuesday

wnylib

(21,466 posts)
53. The Buffalo News used to carry
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 10:21 PM
Jun 2020

George Will as their.regular conservative editorialist. They are a left leaning paper so the rest of their columnists have been progressive, e.g. Eugene Robinson, and a few others. But, they cut back on the number of columnists and now have 2 per day, changing them at random as far as I can tell.

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
54. Between George Will and David Gergen
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 10:36 PM
Jun 2020

anything to the left of Attila the Hun was a breath of fresh air.

Charles krauthammer, William Buckley ...

These rightwing “oh we have the best words” people have annoyed me with their erudite ways ... and they have been solidly in the republican camp for decades.

They built this monster ... I will not forget their part.

wnylib

(21,466 posts)
55. I always thought that William F. Buckley was
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 10:50 PM
Jun 2020

a pompous ass who confused obfuscation with genuine verbal and intellectual skill.

Krauthammer I just hated thoroughly.

malaise

(269,004 posts)
7. Voters must dispatch his congressional enablers, especially the senators who still gambol around his
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 05:27 PM
Jun 2020

ankles with a canine hunger for petting.”

This is very well stated.

BittyJenkins

(411 posts)
10. Thank you George,
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 05:37 PM
Jun 2020

You helped create it so can to you do more to stop it. I have heard your voice for decades...You do have the power of the media.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
16. White Racism goes back before George Will. He has always hated Trump
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 05:54 PM
Jun 2020

and actually brings up the racism as one of the reasons.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
29. I have long disagreed with George Will, but I have never viewed his writing as
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 06:27 PM
Jun 2020

racist in any way. He has always been a pro-business, small government, imperialist America type conservative, but he has never seemed interested in destroying government like republicans today are, and his imperialism has never had a racial tinge to it, IMO.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
37. I know what you mean about the imperialism which is more a neo con thing
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 07:04 PM
Jun 2020

Neo Cons though tend to usually hate the more common type of bigotry in the US such as racial discrimination . They also have this ideal video of the US which many might somewhat agree with but instead of working to make sure AMERICANS were benefiting from those ideals they focused more on other places .

Most liberals could already see the racism and how much it's a part of this country. Lyndon Johnson himself knew what civil rights would do when it came to support from White people, especially in the south. The NeoCon types and the Steve Schmidts would see things like civil rights legislation that were passed (and supported by liberal republicans in those days) without looking more into how it was in practice . They look at the big picture but without looking at how individuals were actually being affected. Yes, It's good we passed civil rights, but we need to make sure it's more than symbolic, that it's actually practiced on the smaller scale and people are benefiting from it.

The Al Franken interview with Steve Schmidt was interesting because it showed this about Schmidt . Similar to George Will and many other Repbulicans.


Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
41. Like Hillary wisely pointed out in 2016, "laws don't change what is in a person's heart".
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 07:18 PM
Jun 2020

We have to address what people are being taught, without stepping on family porogatives, that is a problematic undertaking. One method that I favor is setting up public schools like in-residence private schools, without the private part. Kids would live in dorms with eachother for the school year, going home only for the weekend. There would be issues to be resolved, but if kids get to ubderstand eachother early on in their lives, that breaks down some of the barriers that have underpinned racism.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
19. "Vichyite collaboration" Heh. Will gets this one right.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 06:00 PM
Jun 2020

Even a pompous ass like Will gets it right about Trump.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
30. He is one of those who invited the crazies into the house to help
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 06:32 PM
Jun 2020

win at election time, but locked them in the basement all other times. Now the crazies are running rampant about the house and Will in locked outside, freezing to death in the cold. Now, they want us to save the country, and by extension, save what is left of the true conservative movement.

struggle4progress

(118,285 posts)
24. Cheesy crumpets, Batman! Very partisan George is finally embarrassed by Republican shenanigans!
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 06:09 PM
Jun 2020

Peering into the second and third circles of hell never seemed to give him any cause for thought -- but apparently he has reconsidered somewhat now as the seventh and eighth gape before him

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
26. George Will got on the anti-trump train AFTER he took a major role in planning,funding and building
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 06:17 PM
Jun 2020

the TRUMP MEMORIAL WHITE SUPREMACIST SUPER HIGHWAY SYSTEM.

Screw him.

plimsoll

(1,670 posts)
32. Not an overtly evil man,
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 06:36 PM
Jun 2020

But much like Kevin Phillips, he bears some of the burden of creating the current situation.

Paladin

(28,261 posts)
42. Back at ya, George Will.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 07:37 PM
Jun 2020

trump's perversion of old-style conservatism is condign punishment for you and other prominent right-wingers who supported the asshole for years and now regret it. Fuck off.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
43. "the sycophantic mediocrities who cosset him in the White House"
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 07:42 PM
Jun 2020

I don't know what sent me into wild laughter on that line.
I've had so many depressed states about the whole Trumpian shit pie, especially the thought that substantial hordes have such fawning hero worship of the orange buffoon.
It's such a depraved state of affairs at the highest levels.
I needed some comic relief, badly though, and such a succinct summation.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
44. I never wanted a single second of this.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 07:54 PM
Jun 2020

I want a time machine - Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton.

Fire every single repugnant - they suck!

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
47. Hell has officially frozen over.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 08:07 PM
Jun 2020

The words of George Will, copied and agreed with upon the pages of Democratic Underground.

Whoever coined the phrase, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", certainly knew what they were talking about.

NBachers

(17,110 posts)
48. No George, I'm sorry- You're the man who sees God at the last moment of your life and then tries to
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 08:07 PM
Jun 2020

atone for a lifetime of plutocratic fomentation of everything that's wrong now, and was wrong then. Sorry, no

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