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KWR65

(1,098 posts)
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 06:01 PM Jun 2020

BET founder Robert Johnson calls for $14 trillion of reparations for slavery

“Now is the time to go big” to keep America from dividing into two separate and unequal societies, Robert Johnson said in a CNBC interview Monday.
Johnson said reparations would send the signal that white Americans acknowledge “damages that are owed” for the unequal playing field created by slavery and the decades since.
The wealth divide and police brutality against blacks are at the heart of protests that have erupted across the nation following last week’s killing of George Floyd during an arrest in Minneapolis.


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/01/bets-robert-johnson-calls-for-14-trillion-of-reparations-for-slavery.html

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ProfessorGAC

(65,044 posts)
1. While I Appreciate The Sentiment...
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 06:06 PM
Jun 2020

...the number is so high as to have nobody look at this plan as anything other than fantasy.
I'm quite certain Mr. Johnson has actual economic data that supports the number.
But, asking for a fantastical sum doesn't start a negotiation. It ends the discussion.
Perhaps he could have said "You owe us $14 Trillion. Make your first offer, Federal Government"

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
3. This, plus the near impossible effort of determining who qualifies
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 06:35 PM
Jun 2020

Even direct descendants of a slave probably isn't a clean criteria. Recently found out wife technically is. seven generations removed, and the rest of her family tree (that we have traced) are white europeans, so you'd never think it based on her appearance.

Archae

(46,328 posts)
4. From a realistic standpoint...
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 06:38 PM
Jun 2020

This guy is an idiot.

Who will collect the trillions?

And from who?
My own family came to the US 60 years AFTER slavery.

And who doles the money out?

And to who, and how much?
Are those with darker black skin going to get more, and lighter-skinned blacks get less?

And what about Hispanics? Asians? Arabs?

KWR65

(1,098 posts)
5. We can start with a flat income tax of 5% on white people to pay off this debt.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 06:42 PM
Jun 2020

It was their ancestors who created this debt. They need to pay for all the discrimination against colored people that has occurred since slavery was abolished. This is a good starting point.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
6. That's a pretty good joke
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 06:45 PM
Jun 2020

Far far to many complications for anything like that to be implemented.

Plus you'll never get something like that passed anyway.

Archae

(46,328 posts)
8. So my ancestors who didn't even come to the US until 1912, are to blame too?
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 06:47 PM
Jun 2020

Why?

"Because they are white!"

Right. Sure.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
10. My family didn't immigrate until more than 50 years after that. And i'm not white
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 06:51 PM
Jun 2020

but I support reparations.

Celerity

(43,383 posts)
11. IF it passes (it never will) you would pay because you're a beneficiary of systemic white privilege
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 07:12 PM
Jun 2020

CURRENTLY that we PoC never had, do not have now, and never will.

I find it utterly tragic, but hardly surprising, when I see whites thinking that only the original sin of chattel slavery counts in terms of the causal action(s) for which redress is owed. The systemic race-based oppression that non-whites lived under, live under, and will continue to live under, post emancipation, is manifestly a massive part of the bill due as well.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
9. As an Asian American (south asian) whose family immigrated here much later I fully support
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 06:51 PM
Jun 2020

reparations. WE would not have many rights and benefits and just overall be successful if not for black people who fought for Civil Rights . And everything else they gave yet still face some of the worst bigotry in this country.

Reparations can be done in many ways.

And it's not just about Slavery. It's about discrimination in housing, jobs , the continued police abuse and just the entire system .

ProgRocknProgPol

(143 posts)
12. My only doubt about this is how accomodating Mr. Johnson has been to Spanky
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 11:25 PM
Jun 2020

In the past, he praised Spanky on the "economy", told fellow black people to give him a chance, and tore Biden up about his stupid gaffe on the Breakfast Club in a way that I never hear him criticize Spanky. I'm thinking he might use Spanky's desperation and vice grip on the Republican party to try to pass this while he's in office (maybe that's why he's been so accommodating to him so far). Blexit will actually happen to a large extent if this comes to pass, and his cult might bitch loudly for a few hours, but will almost certainly line up behind him like they always did (including after the two omnibus bills they so loudly complained about). If this passes, it could be a seismic shift in policy on par with LBJ's Voting Rights Act.

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