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Bucky

(54,013 posts)
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 06:30 PM Jun 2020

Can someone with legal training help me understand this 1st degree theory?

In looking at the paramedic video footage, when the sheriff dept medics show up to remove George Floyd's body from the scene of the crime, before the fire dept's paramedics show up, I'm seeing this as corroborating evidence for a murder one conviction, based on the assailant (Chauvin) and his collaborators "state of mind" at the time of Floyd's death.

Is this sound legal reasoning or am I blowing smoke?

I'm thinking that video footage demonstrates that (1) Chauvin knew already that he had killed George Floyd already, (2) that he called in a friendlier ambulance crew of sheriff deputies who also knew that George Floyd was dead and (3) that they took specific steps to camouflage this from witnesses on scene by (4) putting on the charade of a cursory "check" for pulse (under 2 seconds) all while (5) Chauvin kept on kneeling on his corpse's neck as if he was still restraining him, and (6) later had issued a bogus "died at the hospital" public statement.

Does this elevate the department itself from "a bad trainer and supervisor of cops" to criminal co-conspirators involved in the coverup of a murder?

And does the premeditation of the ambulance ruse demonstrate premeditation of the crime itself?

I've been assuming that the unauthorized restraint of pressing Chauvin's 200 lb. body onto Floyd's neck while he pleaded for his life for 8 minutes alone demonstrates premeditation.

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Can someone with legal training help me understand this 1st degree theory? (Original Post) Bucky Jun 2020 OP
No legal background here, but I've been listening. Murder 1 is hard to prove, esp. with a Karadeniz Jun 2020 #1

Karadeniz

(22,521 posts)
1. No legal background here, but I've been listening. Murder 1 is hard to prove, esp. with a
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 06:50 PM
Jun 2020

Good lawyer and SCOTUS decisions they'll haul out...and it only takes 1 of the 12 jurors to not want to convict a cop. I've already heard one defense...can't recall the exact words, but it amounted to the cops' being overwhelmed by emotions to where reason broke down. I wouldn't buy that one because the 911 call said he was relaxing outside the store and he didn't resist...so I don't see what could have caused the cops to become so delusional that they lost reason. But 1 juror might want to see it. Also, Chauvin has previous complaints...was he counseled, put on notice? No, so he'll claim he thought it was perfectly fine to behave as he did, it always had been. Just 1 juror needs to think it was the police depts fault, not his.

Some mention that they might try murder 2 on Chauvin and manslaughter on the others. We have to wait and see.

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