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raccoon

(31,111 posts)
1. Germany has a very intelligent leader. All we have is an idiot.
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 08:25 AM
Jun 2020

But yeah, It’s a shame the United States didn’t do all that.

Nice country you got here. Be a shame if Trump were to happen to it. (I said that)

DFW

(54,397 posts)
2. Too bad the real Germany isn't quite that wonderful
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 08:57 AM
Jun 2020

If you HAVE to get the virus, this is probably as good a place as any to get it, but I have lived here (Düsseldorf area) for years, and the efficiency isn't anywhere universally that good. Berlin is where the government is. Of course they get preferential treatment. In Düsseldorf, where I live, they bragged that they could test up to 800 people a day. Not on weekends or holidays, of course. At that rate, the might even get around to testing the whole city--in THREE YEARS.

When I got back from Madrid in March, I immediately called our doctor's office, looking to get tested. They said call the health department. I did. After waiting 55 minutes, I finally got through to a live person, who asked if I was showing any symptoms. I wasn't. They said, well then stay home and don't call us unless you do. I said I just came back from a highly infected area. That didn't interest them. Stay home, don't bother us.

OK, so I stayed home--for 5 weeks. I STILL can't get tested. A friend of mine with a small (maybe 30 or 40 employees) firm about 2 hours north of me got himself and his employees tested because he knew the mayor of his town. Good news, only one employee had the antibodies, and according to the test, it was weeks prior to testing, so he was out of danger. But normal mortals like us? "Don't call unless you are dead, and the symptoms haven't improved after a week." Depicting us here in Germany as living in some kind of highly efficient medical utopia gives the wrong impression of what the situation is like for us normal mortals.

As for "our" Trump? ehhh, No thanks. Tried that already. It didn't end well.

JCMach1

(27,559 posts)
3. I love Dusseldorf... In brighter days, the Kempinski's
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:05 AM
Jun 2020

Breakfast buffet was out of this world good...

DFW

(54,397 posts)
4. Though it was flattened during the war, much of it was rebuilt from photos
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:47 AM
Jun 2020

When he conquered this part of Germany (Westfalia), Napoleon called Düsseldorf "my little Paris on the Rhein."

There are worse cities to be in, for sure. For a brief period, it was even better, because Air Berlin had nonstop flights from Düsseldorf to Boston, L.A. and San Francisco. Withiin a year, they went bankrupt, which left only New York, Miami and Atlanta. Oh, well, someday again......

JCMach1

(27,559 posts)
6. Emirates from Dubai
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:00 PM
Jun 2020

Spent a week there traveling hither and yonder by train. Also enjoyed the old town with the open Bier gartens. It's also sort of a shopping and fashion capitol... Lots.of boutique shops

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,349 posts)
5. It's simple, really ...
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:51 AM
Jun 2020

1. Test person X for virus.
1.1. If X does not have it, get another X, go to 1.
1.2. If X has it, proceed to 2.

2. Trace -- find out everyone that X had contact with during the infectious period.
2.1. Treat each contact person as X, go to 1.

3. Isolate -- each person testing positive must be quarantined for 2 weeks.

You have to know who has it to know who is spreading it so you can stop them from spreading it.

No hosts = no virus.

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
7. My impression has always been that German people mostly do as they're told, for better or worse.
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:16 PM
Jun 2020

Americans...not so much.

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