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polichick

(37,152 posts)
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 04:48 PM Jun 2020

Where's the House? If Dems don't impeach the would-be dictator...

Last edited Thu Jun 4, 2020, 09:12 AM - Edit history (1)

again for his crimes and for his moves to “dominate” Americans, they too are enablers.

ONLY the House can make a difference now - if he gets away with this there will be no election, or a completely rigged election. Impeach weekly if necessary - expose every crime, expose every enabler.

For Dem leaders to post on twitter that we should vote - and not to do everything possible to stop this descent into fascism is inexcusable.

Edit: See #25 re Morning Joe today.

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Where's the House? If Dems don't impeach the would-be dictator... (Original Post) polichick Jun 2020 OP
Please. maxsolomon Jun 2020 #1
House needs to focus on investigating, exposing, and legislating. lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #20
I agree with you leftieNanner Jun 2020 #2
They will. Pols know the importance of timing. empedocles Jun 2020 #3
Precisely nt leftieNanner Jun 2020 #4
+1000 Thekaspervote Jun 2020 #5
No surprise McConnell blocked the resolution to condemn the would-be dictator... polichick Jun 2020 #6
Speaker Pelosi on Morning Joe, when asked what she's going to do... polichick Jun 2020 #7
Why wouldn't there be an election? dware Jun 2020 #10
Authoritarians attempt to stop elections (excuses like coronavirus, riots) or simply... polichick Jun 2020 #18
When trump refuses to step down RandiFan1290 Jun 2020 #28
Impeached him again! Solomon Jun 2020 #8
Stop. Only winning November can make a difference. No impeachment. Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #9
+100 nt dware Jun 2020 #11
Thank you. Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #31
Thank you. StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #13
No thank you! Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #32
It's naive to think there will be a normal election if he gets away with this... polichick Jun 2020 #15
It is naive to think impeachment would do any good...and with a pandemic, 20 % unemployment and Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #30
And then what? StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #12
The House could impeach weekly - let Schiff explain to the people... polichick Jun 2020 #14
A more rational approach would be to "censure" him... kentuck Jun 2020 #16
This would help - as long as Schiff spells out exactly what's going on... polichick Jun 2020 #19
House Democrat moves to cut Attorney General Barr's budget by $50 million Maeve Jun 2020 #17
This is good - Dems should use EVERY tool in the box. polichick Jun 2020 #21
Timing is important. backscatter712 Jun 2020 #22
Dems are bad! Dems are bad! mcar Jun 2020 #23
Democrats need to stand up and make clear GOP enables dick-tater. Kid Berwyn Jun 2020 #24
Thank-you! Expecting Dem leaders to use their power is too often seen as being against them. polichick Jun 2020 #26
Morning Joe just interviewed three experts on fascism... polichick Jun 2020 #25
LOL... WTF good would THAT do!? Happy Hoosier Jun 2020 #27
They're letting him implode Sympthsical Jun 2020 #29

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
1. Please.
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 04:49 PM
Jun 2020

It takes time to Impeach. They're not "enabling"; they already Impeached the Motherfucker, and the GOP spit in America's face in response.

November.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
20. House needs to focus on investigating, exposing, and legislating.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 09:22 AM
Jun 2020

With Moscow Mitch running the Senate, another impeachment would be worse than a waste of time.

leftieNanner

(15,114 posts)
2. I agree with you
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 04:50 PM
Jun 2020

They certainly have another count of "abuse of power" to add to the last one.

I trust Speaker Pelosi and Congressman Schiff to make the right call on this, but it does feel like they need to do something.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
6. No surprise McConnell blocked the resolution to condemn the would-be dictator...
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 06:38 PM
Jun 2020

Now Dems need to play hardball and impeach - put Republican cowards on the spot again and let Schiff educate the public about everything that’s going on.

Thinking that there will be a normal election if he gets away with this is pure folly.


polichick

(37,152 posts)
7. Speaker Pelosi on Morning Joe, when asked what she's going to do...
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 08:50 AM
Jun 2020

about Trump’s move toward authoritarianism, talked about faith and hope.

Problem is, voters keep having faith and hope that the Dems will fight for them - but when they get in a seat of power, they too often refuse to use that power fully.

Time to start praying and hoping that there will be an election.

dware

(12,385 posts)
10. Why wouldn't there be an election?
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 09:04 AM
Jun 2020

Those are state run, the feds have no power over them, meaning the Mango Menace can't stop, postpone or otherwise nullify them.

The answer is to GOTV in Nov. and defeat this maniac.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
18. Authoritarians attempt to stop elections (excuses like coronavirus, riots) or simply...
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 09:17 AM
Jun 2020

rig them - which already happened in 2016.

All 50 states have had election system hacks recently according to U.S. intelligence.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
15. It's naive to think there will be a normal election if he gets away with this...
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 09:09 AM
Jun 2020

read a few experts on how authoritarians take over - they have been warning about what is happening.

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
30. It is naive to think impeachment would do any good...and with a pandemic, 20 % unemployment and
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 02:17 PM
Jun 2020

rioting...Democrats would look ridiculous. We can win in November.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
14. The House could impeach weekly - let Schiff explain to the people...
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 09:07 AM
Jun 2020

everything that’s going on, every corrupt and criminal action that’s being taken while the country suffers. Be honest with the people about needing them to pressure the Senate.

The stakes are way too high for a wait and see posture.

kentuck

(111,098 posts)
16. A more rational approach would be to "censure" him...
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 09:12 AM
Jun 2020

That would not need the approval of the US Senate, only a majority of the House.

It would serve no purpose to impeach again unless there were some Republican votes to go along.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
19. This would help - as long as Schiff spells out exactly what's going on...
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 09:20 AM
Jun 2020

But it’s completely rational to keep putting Senate Republicans in the spotlight - make them own everything.

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
17. House Democrat moves to cut Attorney General Barr's budget by $50 million
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 09:13 AM
Jun 2020
The Democrat who chairs the U.S. House of Representatives Judiciary committee said on Tuesday he will introduce legislation this week to cut $50 million in funding from Attorney General William Barr's personal office.

New York Representative Jerrold Nadler said he would move to reduce funding for Barr's personal office as a response to what he called "continued defiance of Congress and improper politicization of the Department of Justice."

"We do not take these actions lightly or with any sense of joy. We have both a duty and a moral obligation to protect the rule of law in our country, and we intend to do just that," Nadler said.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-democrat-moves-to-cut-attorney-general-barrs-budget-by-dollar50-million/ar-BB14WdsU?ocid=anaheim-ntp-feeds

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
22. Timing is important.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 09:37 AM
Jun 2020

Personally, I think the Senate should be forced to try the impeachment right around October.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
25. Morning Joe just interviewed three experts on fascism...
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 09:08 AM
Jun 2020

They said that’s what we are seeing here - and the next step is stealing the election, refusing to give up power. They said Congress needs to act now.

The video is not up yet - everyone should see it.

Happy Hoosier

(7,308 posts)
27. LOL... WTF good would THAT do!?
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 09:11 AM
Jun 2020

A power they do have is to refuse to fund the Justice Dept under current policies and leadership.

Sympthsical

(9,073 posts)
29. They're letting him implode
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 09:23 AM
Jun 2020

And he is, in spectacular fashion.

He’s losing the Defense apparatus as we speak. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs more or less denounced him, which is unheard of. The former Secretary of Defense just ripped him a new one. The current Secretary is distancing himself like mad.

Only the election is going to remove him. Once he loses, his constitutional powers will end. No military or police force will obey him at that point. If they have to drag him out, so be it.

Remember, the House decides any contested election. There are mechanisms in place. If he loses, he’s going. We need to vote harder than we’ve ever voted before.

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