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AMC theaters doubts it can survive (Original Post) Demovictory9 Jun 2020 OP
Not a surprise Sherman A1 Jun 2020 #1
A survey i received from a large aouthern calif live theater venue made me realize Demovictory9 Jun 2020 #4
My employer thinks I can work 10 hours indoors in a mask. onecaliberal Jun 2020 #5
Masks make me feel like i could faint after 10 min Demovictory9 Jun 2020 #6
I'm terrified of bringing the virus home to my husband. onecaliberal Jun 2020 #8
I have well controlled asthma mnhtnbb Jun 2020 #19
my glasses fog up, my face gets hot. I try to complete my store trip in 10 minutes. Demovictory9 Jun 2020 #60
I feel same way, very thankful I am retired marlakay Jun 2020 #36
Easy. ZenDem Jun 2020 #23
There are no windows in my office either. onecaliberal Jun 2020 #28
Imagine working at Disney World. cwydro Jun 2020 #43
I was thinking about this the other day. Initech Jun 2020 #9
Live music has degenerated to light shows and dancing girls syncing with recorded pablum lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #15
That's a good way to dismiss something you don't care about RhodeIslandOne Jun 2020 #40
I used to care but I am spoiled - grew up when legends toured the Earth. lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #41
If the commercial venues won't survive, neither will the little ones RhodeIslandOne Jun 2020 #44
That's certainly not the case where I live (Nashville) or in many other Tanuki Jun 2020 #54
So much winning Botany Jun 2020 #2
+1. Sadistic racists - every goddamn one dalton99a Jun 2020 #10
what bdamomma Jun 2020 #25
And they still allow it. onecaliberal Jun 2020 #29
mostly because of home entertainment JI7 Jun 2020 #3
Theaters were still packed for the big movies Demovictory9 Jun 2020 #7
+1, Last two Avenger movies were waterfalls for theaters. If we had a federated quick test process uponit7771 Jun 2020 #12
They wouldn't be if you could watch at home obamanut2012 Jun 2020 #32
Also the NRA pandemic. lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #17
We were going rarely because frazzled Jun 2020 #27
That's a shame BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #33
It's precisely the reclining leather chairs that I hate frazzled Jun 2020 #49
That's Seems Like A Bad Environment. jayfish Jun 2020 #38
See above frazzled Jun 2020 #50
Mostly because of $15 tickets and $20 popcorn tinrobot Jun 2020 #51
Where the F**K is J Powell ?!!? He said he was backing debt so they can borrow all the money they uponit7771 Jun 2020 #11
Will Drive-Ins make a comback?.. i used Cha Jun 2020 #13
I would love this! pnwest Jun 2020 #16
I'm a baby boomer, and we all have happy memories of the drive-ins FakeNoose Jun 2020 #30
Yeah, now I just watch movies at home.. Cha Jun 2020 #31
I wish, they do need a lot of space, so smaller towns this will be ok,big cities more of a problem sunonmars Jun 2020 #57
I love, love, love going to see movies pnwest Jun 2020 #14
I agree 100%! Nt USALiberal Jun 2020 #39
Bummer! jayfish Jun 2020 #18
+10000 BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #34
A lot of people here hate anything they consider "mainstream" RhodeIslandOne Jun 2020 #42
Yeah, that is definitely a tradition BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #45
Lol wow. RhodeIslandOne Jun 2020 #46
I think we will also see the end of the $200M+ production budget movies exboyfil Jun 2020 #20
Outback is a fascist supporting enterprise. rzemanfl Jun 2020 #22
Family choice exboyfil Jun 2020 #26
Wow.. about Outback.. were you in the parking lot? Cha Jun 2020 #24
I doubt that BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #35
We'll also see the end of $20 million paychecks for movie stars. tinrobot Jun 2020 #52
I also don't think they will survive. nt Kahuna Jun 2020 #21
Meh BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #37
That's Not How 1st Run Theaters Work. jayfish Jun 2020 #47
I never mentioned any of that BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #48
Fair Enough -NT- jayfish Jun 2020 #53
Aren't they owned by a Chinese company? SoCalNative Jun 2020 #55
Slightly. alp227 Jun 2020 #56
They probably have a ton of debt TheFarseer Jun 2020 #59
Shoulda bought less avocado toast at fancy brunches, AMC greenjar_01 Jun 2020 #58

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
1. Not a surprise
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 09:36 AM
Jun 2020

I believe many companies will fall and the world will be radically different in a very short time.

Demovictory9

(32,454 posts)
4. A survey i received from a large aouthern calif live theater venue made me realize
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 09:41 AM
Jun 2020

How dire things are for in person entertainment venues..thw survey asked if i would attend events if all wore a mask....ugh 2 hours in an auditorium in a mask??

onecaliberal

(32,854 posts)
8. I'm terrified of bringing the virus home to my husband.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 09:47 AM
Jun 2020

We are more than capable of working from home so it’s completely unnecessary

mnhtnbb

(31,388 posts)
19. I have well controlled asthma
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 10:00 AM
Jun 2020

but when I put on a mask, it really affects my breathing. I have to be careful to move slowly and be aware of breathing more slowly.

Demovictory9

(32,454 posts)
60. my glasses fog up, my face gets hot. I try to complete my store trip in 10 minutes.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 04:34 PM
Jun 2020

and I tear off the mask while walking to the car.

I really don't see how one can enjoy themselves at an amusement parking wearing a mask

ZenDem

(442 posts)
23. Easy.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 10:06 AM
Jun 2020

Mine thinks I can do 10 hours a day (or more) 5 days a week...in a cave with no windows.
Oh, and we're expected to stay at our desks and not talk to each other.

We're all going a little batty. Pun intended.

onecaliberal

(32,854 posts)
28. There are no windows in my office either.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 10:15 AM
Jun 2020

I definitely don’t want to talk with anyone since I don’t know where they’ve been.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
43. Imagine working at Disney World.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 11:02 AM
Jun 2020

In the Florida summer sun in a mask all day.

I worked at Disney years ago. What a nightmare those folks will have to deal with.

Initech

(100,070 posts)
9. I was thinking about this the other day.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 09:51 AM
Jun 2020

What if the pandemic is over and live music is allowed to come back, but there's no venues to support the shows? I mean sure the bigger venues like Staples Center and Madison Square Garden will survive. But I'm talking about the smaller mom and pop venues like the Troubadour, the Roxy, the Palladium, the Greek Theater, and so on. There's no way a lot of them will survive this.

COVID has just really fucked everything up. Nothing has sucked more than this has.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
15. Live music has degenerated to light shows and dancing girls syncing with recorded pablum
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 09:58 AM
Jun 2020

Not much to attract me these days.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
40. That's a good way to dismiss something you don't care about
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 10:56 AM
Jun 2020

Of course, people who attend live music events know your statement is highly generalized nonsense.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
41. I used to care but I am spoiled - grew up when legends toured the Earth.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 11:00 AM
Jun 2020

As a musician myself, I am saddened by mainstream music. There is good stuff to be found, but not in massive commercial venues.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
54. That's certainly not the case where I live (Nashville) or in many other
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 11:41 AM
Jun 2020

American cities with robust live music scenes.

JI7

(89,249 posts)
3. mostly because of home entertainment
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 09:41 AM
Jun 2020

They were probably already getting fewer people watching in theaters in recent years.

uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
12. +1, Last two Avenger movies were waterfalls for theaters. If we had a federated quick test process
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 09:56 AM
Jun 2020

... were people would just show up to the movies early and get a 15 min test to go in then we'd be near fine.

It's better than what we're going through now.

obamanut2012

(26,072 posts)
32. They wouldn't be if you could watch at home
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 10:39 AM
Jun 2020

Avengers, Star Wars, big Disney movies, stuff like 1917? I would have totally stayed home and watched on my nice TV with my GF. I prefer that -- so do many, many people. We can't, so we have to go to the theater. If there was a choice, we would watch it at home. So much nicer and relaxing.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
27. We were going rarely because
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 10:14 AM
Jun 2020

of a number of reasons.

Number one was the fact that because most films these days are being shot in digital rather than on film, there is not a lot of difference between seeing a movie in the theater rather than on your home screen, at least if you have a decent screen and good sound. Plus, the projection sucks at most movie theaters now. It's automated, rather than having trained projectionists monitoring image and sound at each moment.

Number two is the fact that we are getting older, and I hate those damned armchair seats.

Number three is the cost. We live in the city and have to pay for parking as well as the movie tickets. To pay 30 or 40 dollars and up for two people to watch a film ... well, it's a bit steep (like back when we had to pay a babysitter to go to the movies, but then there was no other choice). Really, that $12 extra dollars for parking to sit in an uncomfortable chair for two hours, with someone talking behind you, and bad projection. It has to really be something that demands the big screen for us to go.





BannonsLiver

(16,384 posts)
33. That's a shame
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 10:43 AM
Jun 2020

You live in a place that costs a fortune to park, but is seemingly devoid of modern movie theaters with reclining leather chairs etc. I’m surprised this advancement never made it to your city, which must be quite large to require $40-50to park. There’s been some pretty cool advancements in theatres. I’m sorry you were experiencing something from the 1970s, apparently. No wonder you hate it.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
49. It's precisely the reclining leather chairs that I hate
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 11:11 AM
Jun 2020

First of all, I'm short. I feel like Lily Tomlin's Edith Ann in them. Those things are made for large, tall people. Second, the seat is usually tilted backward, even when erect. My hips aren't too great, and it puts too much pressure on them to be in that position for a long time. So I usually have to sit with one leg propped under, or a coat bunched up behind, or leaning forward.

Not everybody likes those chairs!

jayfish

(10,039 posts)
38. That's Seems Like A Bad Environment.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 10:50 AM
Jun 2020

All the theaters in my area, AMC included, switched to recliners years ago. Before that they put in wider chairs with adjustable armrests. Where required, they validate parking, with a ticket stub. If I was in your market I might not want to go either.

tinrobot

(10,899 posts)
51. Mostly because of $15 tickets and $20 popcorn
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 11:12 AM
Jun 2020

Why spend $50-100 to sit in a crowded room with sticky floors just to watch a movie?

There are better ways.

uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
11. Where the F**K is J Powell ?!!? He said he was backing debt so they can borrow all the money they
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 09:53 AM
Jun 2020

... want to stay alive.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
30. I'm a baby boomer, and we all have happy memories of the drive-ins
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 10:21 AM
Jun 2020

If it were up to us, I think they'd make a comeback. But keep in mind that drive-ins only operate 3 or 4 months out of the year and the ticket prices are artificially low. For example they used to charge the adults $3 each, and the kids in the back seat got in "free." Or the theaters used to have "$5 carload" nights, where you could pack as many people in to the car as possible and the entire fee was $5.00. That was great when we were teen-agers!

The biggest problem were those squawky speakers. The drive-ins need to really upgrade the speakers and make them Wifi or some other digital technology. It can be done, but it won't be cheap. Nowadays people have better TVs and stereos at home than the theaters have anyway.

Cha

(297,206 posts)
31. Yeah, now I just watch movies at home..
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 10:30 AM
Jun 2020

I was just thinking about what the kids would do. They usually want to fraternize while they see shows..

I know I did.

My memory of Drive-Ins were mostly as a little girl in Houston Texas.. and my Mom would make tuna fish sandwiches for everybody. . and then of course in late teens dating in Phoenix Arizona.

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
57. I wish, they do need a lot of space, so smaller towns this will be ok,big cities more of a problem
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 01:29 PM
Jun 2020

Also building the screen and also noise pollution laws.....

I love them, i hope so but they were driven out of business due to land sales and the like.

pnwest

(3,266 posts)
14. I love, love, love going to see movies
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 09:56 AM
Jun 2020

at the theatre, it removes distractions and really facilitates getting “lost” in the movie. But I stopped going when the bedbug situation blew up in the US, and there were reports/rumors/stories about rampant infestations in theaters. Gave me the heebiest of jeebies to think about sitting there and having bedbugs crawl all over me. (I made a rare exception to see “Arrival” in the theater, SO glad I did, but that’s a different story.) Couldn’t PAY me to go now, with the Covid situation.

jayfish

(10,039 posts)
18. Bummer!
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 09:59 AM
Jun 2020

Theaters get a bad rap but I've never had a bad experience at one, outside of midnight showings (to be expected), in 45 years of going to them. Thats 4-5 movies per year. Home systems can be nice but, to me, there's no substitute for the real thing. Also they provide great first employment opportunities for kids.

BannonsLiver

(16,384 posts)
34. +10000
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 10:46 AM
Jun 2020

I never knew there was such visceral hate for movie theatres here. Some in the thread starting with the first response are obviously rooting for their demise. I gather a lot of the complainers haven’t been to a modern theatre and are going the dollar movie route.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
42. A lot of people here hate anything they consider "mainstream"
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 11:01 AM
Jun 2020

It’s a badge of honor to say you don’t go to malls, movies, watch tv, eat at chain restaurants, own a car, mow your lawn, wear shoes, put money in banks, etc.

Movies are pretty expensive, there’s no doubt. But there are plenty of Art house theaters worthy of support and as far as the multi plexes most have made some nice upgrades that somewhat justify the ticket on matinees.

BannonsLiver

(16,384 posts)
45. Yeah, that is definitely a tradition
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 11:04 AM
Jun 2020

I was once accused of being “part of the problem” because I dared to have retirement savings.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
20. I think we will also see the end of the $200M+ production budget movies
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 10:01 AM
Jun 2020

I am surprised there hasn't been more movement towards drive in movie theaters (even temporally set up ones). Part of the problem I think is that showing rights continue to get more restricted for films (this was impacting independent art house and genre theaters even before this crisis).

Even with drive in theaters, you still have to deal with the bathroom service, but you could do food service like restaurants currently do (I had my first experience with that at Outback this weekend - gloved and masked waitress bringing the food to the car).

Cha

(297,206 posts)
24. Wow.. about Outback.. were you in the parking lot?
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 10:11 AM
Jun 2020

I would think some entrepreneurs would be gearing up for Drive In Movies.. Blast from the Past.

I know people use the public restrooms at Costco all masked & gloved.. I wait till I home.

I haven't been to a movie house in years.. I prefer at home.. that's just me, though.

tinrobot

(10,899 posts)
52. We'll also see the end of $20 million paychecks for movie stars.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 11:14 AM
Jun 2020

A good portion of those $200 million budgets are for talent.

BannonsLiver

(16,384 posts)
37. Meh
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 10:48 AM
Jun 2020

If they fail someone will step in. Despite some of the hatred for the movie going experience by some in the thread the industry isn’t going anywhere.

jayfish

(10,039 posts)
47. That's Not How 1st Run Theaters Work.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 11:09 AM
Jun 2020

Mom & pop can't just say "hey let's open up a theater" so we can show the new MCU movie. Check out John Campea on YouTube. He gives some good insight on how the business works.

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
55. Aren't they owned by a Chinese company?
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 12:30 PM
Jun 2020

I'm sure that someone else will step in and take over many of their locations

alp227

(32,022 posts)
56. Slightly.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 01:25 PM
Jun 2020
From Wikipedia:

The company is listed on the New York Stock Exchange; from 2012 to 2018, the Chinese conglomorate Wanda Group owned a majority stake in the company. Private equity firm Silver Lake Partners made a $600 million investment in AMC in September 2018, but the voting powers of AMC shares are structured in such a way that Wanda Group still controls the majority of AMC's board of directors.[4]

TheFarseer

(9,322 posts)
59. They probably have a ton of debt
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 01:42 PM
Jun 2020

Because of all the lampreys sucking on them - aka private equity groups. No wonder they are in trouble.

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