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CatWoman

(79,301 posts)
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 12:00 PM Jun 2020

George Floyd had 'violent criminal history': Minneapolis police union chief

The head of the Minneapolis police union says George Floyd’s “violent criminal history” needs to be remembered and that the protests over his death are the work of a “terrorist movement.”

“What is not being told is the violent criminal history of George Floyd. The media will not air this,” police union president Bob Kroll told his members in a letter posted Monday on Twitter.

Floyd had landed five years behind bars in 2009 for an assault and robbery two years earlier, and before that, had been convicted of charges ranging from theft with a firearm to drugs, the Daily Mail reported.

Floyd died last week after a white cop kneeled on the 46-year-old black man’s neck for nearly 9 minutes, a shocking incident that was caught on video and is sparking widespread violent protests, including in New York City. Floyd had allegedly just tried to pass a phony $20 bill before he died.

“This terrorist movement that is currently occurring was a long time build up which dates back years,” Kroll said in his letter of the protests, adding that some of his city’s issues exist because Minneapolis leaders have been “minimizing the size of our police force and diverting funds to community activists with an anti-police agenda.

“Our chief requested 400 more officers and was flatly denied any. This is what led to this record breaking riot,” he said.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/02/george-floyd-had-violent-criminal-history-minneapolis-union-chief/amp/?fbclid=IwAR1SXg4-LnaAcTZfJdntSqgpv2XyFTzMlVFJ4IJKJC_EAFgsqmRnb4ROlnA

Here's the Twitter thread and people are not having it:


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George Floyd had 'violent criminal history': Minneapolis police union chief (Original Post) CatWoman Jun 2020 OP
Past acts and present behaviors are not the same. He paid his debts. TheBlackAdder Jun 2020 #1
And those cops have a violent history PatSeg Jun 2020 #35
precisely IcyPeas Jun 2020 #51
Fuck him. LakeArenal Jun 2020 #2
This scumbag needs to be taken down. roamer65 Jun 2020 #3
SO WHAT? cyclonefence Jun 2020 #4
Exactly. maxsolomon Jun 2020 #5
+1000000 Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2020 #31
Dylann Roof, the white nationalist who killed 9 in the Charleston church was peacefully arrested, sop Jun 2020 #20
White privilege on steroids. nt Phoenix61 Jun 2020 #40
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2020 #54
White people like that cop would be guilty of that and MUCH more if they were the slaved class Eliot Rosewater Jun 2020 #6
Sounds like Trump's lawyers wrote it for him ... (nt) mr_lebowski Jun 2020 #7
Is there a reason Kroll can't be fired? SharonClark Jun 2020 #8
This guy Kroll has a long history of racism and disrespect of citizens dawg day Jun 2020 #9
Kroll represents the views of his police union membership. sop Jun 2020 #39
Should make it easier to fire the ones that need firing maxrandb Jun 2020 #56
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2020 #55
Oh come on! Newest Reality Jun 2020 #10
White Supremacist says what? Kroll is a disgrace to America. cayugafalls Jun 2020 #11
There would be protests if there were video of Jeffrey Epstein's killing. Probably. Marcuse Jun 2020 #12
Translation. It is ok to murder someone if they are black. What this demonstrates is that a lot of still_one Jun 2020 #13
So how does that justify murder on the street by police? gordianot Jun 2020 #14
Kroll seems too stupid to know that he's Cha Jun 2020 #15
LOL!!!! CatWoman Jun 2020 #19
Oh WOW.. Thank you for the Tweet, CatWoman! Cha Jun 2020 #57
They always try to dirty up the person that got them in trouble. n/t Peregrine Took Jun 2020 #16
Yeah. They're the victims. All the power but they're the Solly Mack Jun 2020 #17
If Kroll is still a Sworn Officer Wellstone ruled Jun 2020 #18
Was he out there on the line with the other officers? Or hiding out in a bunker? LiberalFighter Jun 2020 #21
I'm Just Waiting For Trump To Echo Kroll's Comments..... global1 Jun 2020 #22
who cares obamanut2012 Jun 2020 #23
Well I am glad Kroll thinks that ones' past should be considered. We the people will judge tulipsandroses Jun 2020 #24
Yeah between the victim and murderer, only one of them has a history of killing Takket Jun 2020 #26
i'm just amazed it took this long for this to be published CatWoman Jun 2020 #30
+1 crickets Jun 2020 #48
How many past violent acts does a person need to have to make killing them legal? Takket Jun 2020 #25
So, this union chief is saying, duforsure Jun 2020 #27
Oh, yeah. "He deserved it!" has never been a good excuse for murder. crickets Jun 2020 #47
Bob: First rule of holes gratuitous Jun 2020 #28
It's irrelevant Hav Jun 2020 #29
Dear Mr Kroll sarisataka Jun 2020 #32
What a jackass essme Jun 2020 #33
Thats the whole point doesn't matter what he did before marlakay Jun 2020 #34
A WORTHLESS FUCK that bluestarone Jun 2020 #36
Fuck this guy. I can guarantee you he's been on the phone with Trump. octoberlib Jun 2020 #37
I did not know that after you paid a five year penalty Doreen Jun 2020 #38
I don't care if he kidnapped the Lindberg baby dsc Jun 2020 #41
The head of this police uniton is a trump supporter and a major league asshole Gothmog Jun 2020 #42
Yoiks. nt crickets Jun 2020 #49
Police Unions are a Problem across the country JI7 Jun 2020 #43
Goddammit. You KNEW the "he was no angel" narrative was coming. bullwinkle428 Jun 2020 #44
Bob Kroll is a racist loon. BluesRunTheGame Jun 2020 #45
I don't see how that works cagefreesoylentgreen Jun 2020 #46
I suspect that the defense will do all it can to get evidence of Mr. Floyd's record admitted. totodeinhere Jun 2020 #50
Yeah but you still can't do what you did treestar Jun 2020 #52
Lets assume that's true. The guys that jumped on him don't know that. Renew Deal Jun 2020 #53
SO IT'S OKAY TO KILL HIM? spanone Jun 2020 #58

TheBlackAdder

(28,193 posts)
1. Past acts and present behaviors are not the same. He paid his debts.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 12:02 PM
Jun 2020

.

He also changed and is now extremely devout evangelical, which seems why Pat Robertson defends him.

.

sop

(10,177 posts)
20. Dylann Roof, the white nationalist who killed 9 in the Charleston church was peacefully arrested,
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 12:20 PM
Jun 2020

no one knelt on his neck, and the cops even got him something from Burger King because he was hungry.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,111 posts)
6. White people like that cop would be guilty of that and MUCH more if they were the slaved class
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 12:05 PM
Jun 2020

of people targeted for extinction by a racist system.

Also, he paid his debt PLUS surely nobody thinks the murderer cops KNEW all that while they were doing this, and lets say they did, do tey get to execute people in the streets for past crimes even ones the person has PAID their debt for?

Nah, we are past all that, the military is coming for us...Putin is winning at the moment

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
9. This guy Kroll has a long history of racism and disrespect of citizens
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 12:06 PM
Jun 2020

He refers to protesters as "terrorists' and implies that Floyd deserved to die?

And that this killing happened because the government didn't give the police more money and employment?

maxrandb

(15,330 posts)
56. Should make it easier to fire the ones that need firing
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 03:34 PM
Jun 2020

Show up at their next Union meeting and just fire everyone there.

If you support this trash, you have no reason wearing a badge.

I feel the same about Donnie Dollhands voters.

I could name you 100 Republicans that would cut taxes for the rich, screw the poor and put conservatives on the bench... however, they picked this guy.

There must be punishment for that choice.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
10. Oh come on!
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 12:07 PM
Jun 2020

That would be another matter completely and does not justify murder. What a COP out.

Are they saying that anyone who is "considered" a criminal is fair game now? Cops get to be the judge, jury and executioner?

That statement was an insult to our system, (as we knew it) and dangerous.

NO WAY!

cayugafalls

(5,640 posts)
11. White Supremacist says what? Kroll is a disgrace to America.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 12:09 PM
Jun 2020

He should keep his racist mouth shut and lose his job.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
13. Translation. It is ok to murder someone if they are black. What this demonstrates is that a lot of
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 12:09 PM
Jun 2020

the Minneapolis police force needs to be fired, and the entire structure needs a total revamping

Solly Mack

(90,766 posts)
17. Yeah. They're the victims. All the power but they're the
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 12:15 PM
Jun 2020

victims.

All the force of law. But they're the victims.

Ain't that just the way of it?

It's not that the police do bad things. It's that anyone not cheering for them is a terrorist and out to get them.

Fuck Kroll and any and all who think like he does.



 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
18. If Kroll is still a Sworn Officer
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 12:18 PM
Jun 2020

and in on Union Business Leave of Absence,the City Attorney as well as the Chief of Police could pull his leave. If he is still gaining Seniority as a Sworn Officer with the Mpls PD,seems to me he is exposed to discipline.

global1

(25,247 posts)
22. I'm Just Waiting For Trump To Echo Kroll's Comments.....
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 12:26 PM
Jun 2020

You know that he will pick those words up and either Tweet or repeat them the next time he speaks.

tulipsandroses

(5,124 posts)
24. Well I am glad Kroll thinks that ones' past should be considered. We the people will judge
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 12:30 PM
Jun 2020

Derek Chauvin's past with 18 complaints and a string of dead bodies as well.

CatWoman

(79,301 posts)
30. i'm just amazed it took this long for this to be published
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 12:39 PM
Jun 2020

as it's the standard SOP following each and every police murder: lay out the case that the victim was sub human and had it coming

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
27. So, this union chief is saying,
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 12:35 PM
Jun 2020

If you have a criminal past it's ok to murder them? That's justified for officers to ignore his rights, and use undue force restraining someone who isn't resisting, and isn't threatening them? I think that battle will be easily a losing one, and union police officers needs to get another chief for their union.

crickets

(25,978 posts)
47. Oh, yeah. "He deserved it!" has never been a good excuse for murder.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 02:18 PM
Jun 2020

By the time the country has exploded into wall to wall protests, the entire world has seen what is going on and many countries have had sympathetic protests as well, it's far too late to try to get away with that.

Any sensible person ought to know he can't lean on the same old blame the victim nonsense this time around. What an embarrassment to the police union and Minneapolis. What a blatant illustration of the systemic rot that plagues so many police departments. Bob Kroll has got to go.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
28. Bob: First rule of holes
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 12:36 PM
Jun 2020

Stop digging. And after that screed, you might just consider pulling the hole you're in over yourself. Minneapolis Police Union members: Is this the man you want representing you to the world? Does he speak for you? The longer the union members leave him in this position, the more his words stick to you.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
29. It's irrelevant
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 12:37 PM
Jun 2020

Even if the arrest had been for these crimes, the police still wouldn't have the right to murder him.
In fact, I've heard of mass shooters who got a burger instead of a public lynching.

sarisataka

(18,651 posts)
32. Dear Mr Kroll
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 12:46 PM
Jun 2020

Don't even go fuck yourself, you don't deserve the pleasure.

Just crawl into a sewer, if you can find some rats that can tolerate you, and never show your face again.

Sincerely,

S

marlakay

(11,465 posts)
34. Thats the whole point doesn't matter what he did before
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 12:52 PM
Jun 2020

I was on a jury in rural WA state years ago and it was mostly a all white area but some mexicans worked in the orchards or vineyards. One of them got arrested for attempted rape. He had a job, custody of his teen daughter because his ex was on drugs but was making low money so had no money for bail.

By the time I saw him he had been in jail for months, lost his job, his house he rented and his daughter.

There was zero proof against him, literally zero and even the woman said he didn’t touch her. They arrested him because when he went to his girlfriends house she wasn’t there, didn’t tell him her daughter (18) was going to be there and in the dark he accidentally laid down next to her on bed in living room. As soon as he realized she was there he jumped up and went to other room. The girl woke up with a button unbuttoned, which could have happened rolling over in her sleep, she even admitted he never touched her.

And yet me and a few others had to fight for him to go free, the conservatives on the jury wanted to keep him in jail because of his color. They said the police must know his past he did something in his past. And we said we are not there for his past nor do we know it. We are here for now and what is happening now!

We set him free but by then he had lost everything because of bail.


bluestarone

(16,940 posts)
36. A WORTHLESS FUCK that
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 12:55 PM
Jun 2020

NEEDS to be removed from ANY decision making!!!! How can he be removed? Union vote?

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
38. I did not know that after you paid a five year penalty
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 01:01 PM
Jun 2020

that there was an added death penalty. A painful one too.

They are trying every angle of justifying the murder.

dsc

(52,161 posts)
41. I don't care if he kidnapped the Lindberg baby
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 01:24 PM
Jun 2020

unless the police were psychic there is no way they could have known his record, and his actions were complaint.

46. I don't see how that works
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 01:58 PM
Jun 2020

I’m not sure how that justifies the use of deadly force for a fraudulent $20 bill (it doesn’t).

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
50. I suspect that the defense will do all it can to get evidence of Mr. Floyd's record admitted.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 02:52 PM
Jun 2020

The cop will have a good well financed defense. Racists from all over the world are probably contributing to the defense fund set up by his union. And you can say that his past record is irrelevant. And I would agree but will the judge? The defense will maintain that with knowledge of Mr. Floyd's record they felt that his treatment was justified. If I were on a jury I would never buy that but who knows. As we know a lot of cops get off.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
52. Yeah but you still can't do what you did
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 03:16 PM
Jun 2020

FFS. Why do they always think this is an excuse? Due Process remains the same.

Renew Deal

(81,858 posts)
53. Lets assume that's true. The guys that jumped on him don't know that.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 03:18 PM
Jun 2020

The protests should go to Kroll's office front door.

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