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marmar

(77,078 posts)
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 12:49 PM Jun 2020

From hair salons to gyms, experts rank 36 activities by coronavirus risk level


from Michigan Live:


From hair salons to gyms, experts rank 36 activities by coronavirus risk level
Updated Jun 02, 6:48 PM; Posted Jun 02, 10:42 AM


As governments continue to ease restrictions during the COVID-19 pandemic, the burden of managing risk is shifting to people.

Experts have advised people for months to wear masks, wash their hands and stay 6 feet apart. But now that some public places are reopening, individuals must decide for themselves which ones to continue to avoid and which ones pose little risk of spreading the virus.

MLive spoke to the following four public health experts in Michigan, asking them to assess the risk various activities pose to spreading coronavirus.

Dr. Matthew Sims, Beaumont Health director of infectious disease research
Dr. Dennis Cunningham, McLaren Health Care medical director for infection prevention
Dr. Mimi Emig, retired infectious disease specialist with Spectrum Health
Dr. Nasir Husain, Henry Ford Macomb medical director for infection prevention


The doctors pointed to five factors, when considering how risky a given activity might be: Whether it’s inside or outside; proximity to others; exposure time; likelihood of compliance; and personal risk level.

....(snip)....

Here's the ranking of 36 activities, starting with the most hazardous.

Bars

Risk level: 9

Experts agree – bars are very risky.

"After a couple of drinks, they're starting to feel a little more invincible," Husain said. "And that's when the trouble starts." ..............(more)

https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2020/06/from-hair-salons-to-gyms-experts-rank-36-activities-by-coronavirus-risk-level.html?fbclid=IwAR2CfegRnpaNHeVmDwJTckHSFKg-nkbzHIfJU5s9xGRpHQHPlfPwKzuO7Uc




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From hair salons to gyms, experts rank 36 activities by coronavirus risk level (Original Post) marmar Jun 2020 OP
Interesting read Mike 03 Jun 2020 #1
I think I've seen cannabis_flower Jun 2020 #15
At Costco in the past leftieNanner Jun 2020 #23
Thank you Freddie Jun 2020 #2
Great info. Though I'm not buying that ranking for flying. Squinch Jun 2020 #3
i agree. barbtries Jun 2020 #17
Another factor with bars that isn't mentioned Cirque du So-What Jun 2020 #4
I sure have missed visiting our local art museums, good to know it is risk level #3 FM123 Jun 2020 #5
Damn, everything I love is in the 8 or 9 risk factors. Initech Jun 2020 #6
Amusement parks are an 8 spinbaby Jun 2020 #7
The part that got me............ MyOwnPeace Jun 2020 #8
Lol marmar Jun 2020 #14
Some people want to get filled with the spirit IronLionZion Jun 2020 #24
Great info. Thanks, marmar. nt crickets Jun 2020 #9
RNC Convention: 10. Extremely risky, Most people not wearing masks and because they are Doodley Jun 2020 #10
Good article, but not sure about air travel and camping being the same risk, even with filtration. dameatball Jun 2020 #11
They ranked pontoon boat rides, but didn't rank Totally Tunsie Jun 2020 #12
Yeah, I thought pontoon boat rides were a bit odd. They already have weight restrictions, so it dameatball Jun 2020 #13
Good article, but pontoon boat rides? hibbing Jun 2020 #16
In Michigan it's actually pretty common. All these lakes. Lol marmar Jun 2020 #19
Have you been to TN? AirmensMom Jun 2020 #26
I guess I need to get out more! n/t hibbing Jun 2020 #27
Thank you for this. lark Jun 2020 #18
Bookmarking for valuable info! Thanks! liberalla Jun 2020 #20
Many here are very angry. DownriverDem Jun 2020 #21
The gyms are reopened in my area Revanchist Jun 2020 #22
Confirms the latest studies that we catch it from breathing it in, not touching surfaces IronLionZion Jun 2020 #25
Bookmarked, kicked, and rec'd Wednesdays Jun 2020 #28
Good article but too many variables and it invites complacency. KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2020 #29

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
1. Interesting read
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 12:54 PM
Jun 2020

The article says getting groceries is a '3', so fairly low-risk, but the risk goes up if people are not wearing masks.

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
15. I think I've seen
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 03:09 PM
Jun 2020

A few stores that have apps that allow you to scan your purchases and pay for them without going to the register. That makes the grocery store safer because I've heard that checkout is the most dangerous place at the grocery store.

Of course, curbside pickup or delivery is even safer.

leftieNanner

(15,084 posts)
23. At Costco in the past
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 03:40 PM
Jun 2020

I always used the in-person check out lane because I felt like it was supporting that person's job. Now I always use the self checkout area.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
3. Great info. Though I'm not buying that ranking for flying.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 01:00 PM
Jun 2020

I'm old enough to remember when people smoked on planes. There was no getting away from it.

Cirque du So-What

(25,932 posts)
4. Another factor with bars that isn't mentioned
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 01:04 PM
Jun 2020

People drinking alcohol speak at louder volume, forcefully exhaling more air and whatever it carries with every utterance.

Initech

(100,068 posts)
6. Damn, everything I love is in the 8 or 9 risk factors.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 01:10 PM
Jun 2020

Guess I take a lot more risks than I previously thought!

Fuck Coronavirus though.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
8. The part that got me............
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 01:14 PM
Jun 2020

"Churches and bars share the same level of risk!"

SO, that's what they mean when they say, "Damned if you do and damned if you don't!"

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
24. Some people want to get filled with the spirit
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 03:45 PM
Jun 2020

and other people want to get filled with the spirit. Either way, you may come back with more than when you went in.

Spread the good word, spread good cheer, and spread other things.

Doodley

(9,088 posts)
10. RNC Convention: 10. Extremely risky, Most people not wearing masks and because they are
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 01:27 PM
Jun 2020

loud-mouths, they spread the virus far and wide.

dameatball

(7,397 posts)
11. Good article, but not sure about air travel and camping being the same risk, even with filtration.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 01:27 PM
Jun 2020

Glad they put the article together. I was involved with medical facility/mental health facility safety for several years. One of the things we did was to identify possible threats (active shooter, pandemic, natural disaster, etc) and come up with those activities in each of our areas that might have a risk factor. Then assign that risk a numerical value to illustrate threat levels. It really helped us to get a clear picture of what activities and conditions might need extra attention or modification. I'm sure there is a lot of this valuation being done all over the world these past few months.

dameatball

(7,397 posts)
13. Yeah, I thought pontoon boat rides were a bit odd. They already have weight restrictions, so it
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 01:49 PM
Jun 2020

isn't like there are dozens of people crowded together. Usually 6-12 people for most family sized vessels, unless someone has a lot of disposable income.

hibbing

(10,098 posts)
16. Good article, but pontoon boat rides?
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 03:12 PM
Jun 2020

That one just seemed out of place in terms of the percentage of people that partake in the listed activities.

Peace

lark

(23,097 posts)
18. Thank you for this.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 03:21 PM
Jun 2020

I think they underplayed the risk of flying because they didn't consider the long crowded ines for check in & safety inspections plus the crowds in the terminals. Plus airplanes are NOT practicing social distancing and on some flight every seat is filled so I for one will not fly until I have been vaccinated with a non-drumpf related substance or virus has disappeared which doesn't seem likely.

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
21. Many here are very angry.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 03:31 PM
Jun 2020

They call Governor Whitmer such awful names. I've pointed out they are in the minority since she has wide support, but they don't care. I've given up on them.

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
25. Confirms the latest studies that we catch it from breathing it in, not touching surfaces
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 04:46 PM
Jun 2020

Masking is the important piece here, and minimizing time indoors sharing air with lots of people.

So once again, introverts and liberals will fare better than the maskless partiers.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
29. Good article but too many variables and it invites complacency.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:32 PM
Jun 2020

The risk in any place we go depends on...

* The community viral load at that time (which can't be practically measured),
* Due caution, education and willingness to exercise discipline from all participants at the location,
* Health status (immunity, conditioning, etc.) of the people at the site,
* Discipline of the host business or activity to monitor the participants and to call out dangerous behavior, and perhaps most inportantly....
* How well the host business or activity follows, executes and enforces safety guidelines.

Our biggest enemies in America are the public's hard-headedness, resentment of education, insistence on individual freedom to do as we please, resistance to valid authority, and dependence on the internet for knowledge that likely is not professional or verified.

These ratings come with a long list of "ifs" considering how most people use things like this and others (such as the use of masks) as an absolute guide and they become careless and complacent.

I wish us all the best of luck in our daily journey of making decisions on what's safe or not....

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