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catbyte

(34,472 posts)
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 02:02 PM Jun 2020

Tom Cotton Is Not Trying to Persuade You. He's Trying to Bludgeon You.

Some arguments backing the New York Times' decision to publish the senator's screed betray a dangerously naive view of how authoritarian rhetoric operates. Many more are just dumb.

By Jack Holmes
Jun 4, 2020

After the New York Times published a fascist screed from a sitting United States senator on Wednesday, in which Tom Cotton argued—using false premises—for deploying the military to crush the ongoing protests in cities across America, a predictable argument erupted in the public square.

"Free speech!" some shouted, as if the First Amendment grants everyone the inalienable right to have their shitty opinions published in the Paper of Record and disseminated to as many people as possible. You have every right to use your speech to advocate for violent government suppression of speech, even on the eve of the 31st anniversary of the Tiananmen Square massacre, but no one is obligated to hand you a megaphone. It's not like Cotton could not have found some other platform from which to spew this constitutionally heinous bilge. The Times' decision to grant him their imprimatur, without challenging him in any way or providing readers with relevant context, is a moral atrocity. Make no mistake: his prescription would lead to the killing of American citizens in the streets of their own cities. He said so himself.

But there was also another argument in play, and it betrayed an attitude towards the rhetoric of authoritarianism that is dangerously naive. It's a variant of the "sunlight is the best disinfectant" argument, and it holds that fascist rhetoric like this should be widely and loudly trumpeted so that it can be dismantled using Facts and Logic. Throw it into the "marketplace of ideas," where its value will swiftly plummet. But this represents a comprehensive failure to grapple with the nature of fascism, which is not bound by concerns about what is true or even what was said five minutes ago. It cannot be defeated by Reason. It continually shape-shifts and changes form, rejecting previous bedrock principles in favor of their opposites whenever it is convenient. It is necessarily absurd, because it is just an elaborate costume for a very simple message: "Obey, or I will hurt you."

Jean-Paul Sartre illustrated this in 1946, a time when the world had become well acquainted with the form.

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.


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https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a32767317/tom-cotton-op-ed-authoritarian-rhetoric/
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Tom Cotton Is Not Trying to Persuade You. He's Trying to Bludgeon You. (Original Post) catbyte Jun 2020 OP
👀 underpants Jun 2020 #1
True. Caliman73 Jun 2020 #2
+1000000 Nevilledog Jun 2020 #7
Fascists worship violence and power DBoon Jun 2020 #3
Tom Cotton atreides1 Jun 2020 #4
We had a lieutenant The Wizard Jun 2020 #6
I am kind of glad in a way Cotton published his crap. Now more people are aware of his idiotic ... SWBTATTReg Jun 2020 #5

Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
2. True.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 02:12 PM
Jun 2020

I am all for arguments in good faith but right wingers, especially the further right you get, never argue in good faith. They use liberal rules to destroy liberalism. They say that all ideas need to be heard while attempting to silence others, they say that they are just asking questions (jaq'ing off) not to get answers but to keep liberals defending a positions.


Innuendo Studios on You Tube, did a very good series on how the Alt Right, and conservatives use various tactics to control the conversation.

Cotton is using several in his stupid opinion piece that should never have been published.

The Wizard

(12,551 posts)
6. We had a lieutenant
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 02:44 PM
Jun 2020

like Cotton. He was handed a radio. compass, map and binoculars with these instructions: Adjust fire. Being an asshole was rewarded with the new job description, forward observer. We never saw him again.

SWBTATTReg

(22,174 posts)
5. I am kind of glad in a way Cotton published his crap. Now more people are aware of his idiotic ...
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 02:25 PM
Jun 2020

and naive thinking in suppressing protesters. He's done far more damage to his 'brand' then he realizes. I've listened to this POS before and I can't stand him. I hope that he chokes on a copy of the constitution, especially coming from him, being that he's served in the services. I like what the Wash. Post said (see below)...and agree, since now, Mr. Cotton is hearing a barrage of criticism being directed his way, as it should be.

Tom Cotton’s ugly screed hints at the terrible backlash to come ... (article in Wash. Post)

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