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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,036 posts)
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 09:53 PM Jun 2020

How Police Unions Became Such Powerful Opponents to Reform Efforts

Over the past five years, as demands for reform have mounted in the aftermath of police violence in cities like Ferguson, Mo., Baltimore and now Minneapolis, police unions have emerged as one of the most significant roadblocks to change. The greater the political pressure for reform, the more defiant the unions often are in resisting it — with few city officials, including liberal leaders, able to overcome their opposition.

They aggressively protect the rights of members accused of misconduct, often in arbitration hearings that they have battled to keep behind closed doors. And they have also been remarkably effective at fending off broader change, using their political clout and influence to derail efforts to increase accountability.

While rates of union membership have dropped by half nationally since the early 1980s, to 10 percent, higher membership rates among police unions give them resources they can spend on campaigns and litigation to block reform. A single New York City police union has spent more than $1 million on state and local races since 2014.

In St. Louis, when Kim Gardner was elected the top prosecutor four years ago, she set out to rein in the city’s high rate of police violence. But after she proposed a unit within the prosecutor’s office that would independently investigate misconduct, she ran into the powerful local police union.

The union pressured lawmakers to set aside the proposal, which many supported but then never brought to a vote. Around the same time, a lawyer for the union waged a legal fight to limit the ability of the prosecutor’s office to investigate police misconduct. The following year, a leader of the union said Ms. Gardner should be removed “by force or by choice.”

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How Police Unions Became Such Powerful Opponents to Reform Efforts (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2020 OP
first u hire ppl who have criminal tendencies, then u hire a lot, then u hijack the union? nt msongs Jun 2020 #1
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nevilledog Jun 2020 #2
Police Union's are way too powerful Miigwech Jun 2020 #3
K&R for visibility. crickets Jun 2020 #4
We can expect no change as long as police departments are controlled by corrupt racist fascist thugs dalton99a Jun 2020 #5
FTP & ACAB Coventina Jun 2020 #6
How do we rein in the unions? Crunchy Frog Jun 2020 #7
The Police and Fire unions are extremely powerful. geralmar Jun 2020 #8

Nevilledog

(51,122 posts)
2. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 10:17 PM
Jun 2020

Thank you so much for all the time and effort in posting so many important articles. Your dedication has enriched my knowledge base. I appreciate you!

 

Miigwech

(3,741 posts)
3. Police Union's are way too powerful
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 10:25 PM
Jun 2020

Police are supposed to be Civil Servants/ Peace Officers. They have strayed way far from their purpose. Their union supports every disgusting crime anyone of their members is guilt of. Is it a Police Workers Union or a Crime Syndicate Union? The people are out in the streets defining who and what they are.

dalton99a

(81,522 posts)
5. We can expect no change as long as police departments are controlled by corrupt racist fascist thugs
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 01:50 AM
Jun 2020

masquerading as police unions and terrorizing taxpayers who pay their salaries and benefits

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
7. How do we rein in the unions?
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 02:25 AM
Jun 2020

They seem to be the biggest impediment to the major reforms that need to happen.

If it were up to me, they'd be dissolved.

 

geralmar

(2,138 posts)
8. The Police and Fire unions are extremely powerful.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 02:56 AM
Jun 2020

Nobody wants to be robbed or murdered or burn to death so politicians (and voters) are reluctant to rein them in. I retired from local government and was educated in their power and virtual untouchability. I was especially amused at the frantic public fundraising every time a firefighter died. A typical firefighter can make more than his nonunion fire chief and the mayor. I live in a semi-rural community in Michigan. The local paper publishes the annual salaries of public employees. Several lower-ranking firefighters make more than $200,000 annually. The danger from firefighting around here in no way equates with that salary. And salaries like that are not uncommon, depending on the job classifications. The police make considerably less-- sometimes criminally less.

Local governments and elected officials do not have expertise in dealing with police and fire unions, and generally capitulate. What elected official wants to be perceived as against the heroic police and firefighters who keep us all safe from vicious criminals and burning to death? Contract negotiations -- at least in Michigan-- are a joke. What the two unions don't get in negotiations they will get in arbitration. The state arbitrators cave to the police and fire unions. Always. That's how they keep their jobs. Local governments know that before negotiations begin.

I should have been a firefighter.

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