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(4,124 posts)Dan
(3,570 posts)or singles, using a cellphone, or reaching for his wallet.
betsuni
(25,544 posts)sfstaxprep
(9,998 posts)I realize there are plenty of reasons to think cops are Scum right now, but I think it's a bit much to imply that they did not harm this "suspect," because he's white. The guy killed at least one of their fellow officers. I'm sure they probably wanted to do lots of things to his person. I sincerely doubt the fact he's white had anything to do with their restraint in this particular matter.
They had him in cuffs, and in case you didn't notice, he was surrounded by quite a few heavily armed cops, not to mention there looks like a dog, who might have already had a grip on him.
Sorry, but for me, seeing cops doing their jobs correctly, does not make me think they necessarily would have done it incorrectly had a black man been involved. Sometimes they simply act like they're supposed to act when arresting someone.
padah513
(2,503 posts)"Sorry, but for me, seeing cops doing their jobs correctly, does not make me think they necessarily would have done it incorrectly had a black man been involved." And you are 100% right to say so. There are probably thousands of cases where they did it correctly that involved a black man. However, it sure seems to me that whenever they do it incorrectly, and there are thousands of cases where they didn't that don't make the headlines, more often than not there's a black man involved.
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)Skittles
(153,169 posts)not all encounters between cops and POC ends badly
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)Skittles
(153,169 posts)but the all-out demonization is wrong
Hav
(5,969 posts)as long as so called good cops cover for and support bad cops and as long as they vote for racists to represent their unions.
and I am hoping that the change that comes about will be that getting rid of those bad apples is a REQUIREMENT
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)Skittles
(153,169 posts)things have to change
but STEREOTYPING IS WRONG
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... that's the truth.
Are we talking about the same country?!
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)SO fucking done here
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)I wondering if you think racism is involved there?
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... proffered here when data proves I'm 21 times more likely to be shot by a cop than a white person.
Fuck that.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)the people who, like clockwork, quickly jump in to piss all over any discussion about police brutality against blacks with "how dare you demonize the police" and "why don't you ever talk about all the times police DON'T kill black people" pushbacks are often the same ones who consistently hijack conversations about systemic racism and white privilege with "not all white people" distractions?
Yet, these same people rarely bother to actually engage in any discussions about racism except to defend white people and police against being accused of it?
Priorities and perspective, I guess. Or maybe something else.
Solomon
(12,311 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Oh, dear.... indeed.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)a factor in this case or that case actually fighting racism where they believe it IS a factor (and not just where they think black people are being unfair to whites), they'd be taken a lot more seriously as allies in the cause and not have people wondering what their true agenda is.
Do you agree?
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)and focus on only those instances which fits your narrative. Like clockwork you appear to minimize the true concerns.
Initially, I'd thought it merely disappointing, but your narrative, as Shakespeare wrote, "stands off as gross black and white..."
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)There's an agenda being carried out.
Hav
(5,969 posts)That is what the OP was about: More police brutality. So much pretzel logic these days.
For the case it wasn't clear, the point of the OP wasn't to ask for more police violence. It was the opposite by contrasting the treatment of an actual killer to innocent people getting murdered by psycho cops. When murderers can get arrested without anything happening to them, maybe the police can do the same for those who haven't done anything or who are brought in for questioning without publicly lynching them.
And btw, Floyd was in cuffs as well, surrounded by 4 cops, 3 of them sitting on him, torturing him while ironically waiting for medical assistance.
betsuni
(25,544 posts)This guy in the video who murdered a police officers spent a few moments on the pavement before being politely escorted to the car.
George Floyd: "I can't breathe," police think, although he has not done anything violent or dangerous, that he is faking and has superpowers of a diabolical nature. Kill him.
kacekwl
(7,017 posts)Let's not make up problems there is enough to go around.
There was this man, his name was George Floyd. He was black, very very black.
Killed a police officer while white. If they had wanted to do anything with this person they would have. Lot's of things, yet did not.
DID YOU notice that George was in cuffs as well and surrounded by quite a few heavily armed cops slammed his face down onto the pavement with his face bleeding?
See the DIFFERENCE!???? Do Not Tell Me They Were Treated The Same!
NBachers
(17,122 posts)The people who were carjacked didn't deserve to be carjacked.
Demovictory9
(32,457 posts)Skittles
(153,169 posts)the demonization of all cops is sickening
kas125
(2,472 posts)Too bad they didn't think about that for the last several decades while they were beating protesters and it wasn't on the national news 24/7 and stop doing it before people actually discovered what they do to protesters. I am so sick of hearing them whine about how everybody thinks they're evil. Well, pal, if you don't want people to think you're evil, stop committing or excusing evil acts. They could have turned in their buddies instead of turning a blind eye or falsifying reports for them, they could have been doing the right thing all along and they chose not to. They work for us, we aren't here for them to take their sadistic war fantasies out on and if they don't like it they can find new jobs.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)yes there's a problem but THEY'RE NOT ALL THE SAME
Marrah_Goodman
(1,586 posts)As long as good cops allow bad cops to do what they do, there is a serious issue.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)some departments actually do weed out the bad ones........and *ALL* of them need to
Marrah_Goodman
(1,586 posts)Nature Man
(869 posts)TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)so this is all on the cops.
You know how it goes right?
if you have 100 cops on a police force and 3 are bad and 97 cops who look the other way or cover for them you actually have 100 bad cops.
That's how it works
Until all the "good cops" clear out and hold accountable all the "bad ones" they're all bad.
That's just a fucking fact of life.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)not all departments are the same
stop stereotyping
I do agree there's no room for "bad apples" in the police, period.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... we're trying to deal with them be patient with us.
Again, I wish I could afford that sense of safety around police.
If cops are beating white people they're shooting and killing me.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)I KNOW THERE IS A PROBLEM, but I hate, hate, HATE stereotyping.....NOT EVERY COP IS BAD
*DONE HERE*
Sinistrous
(4,249 posts)What I read is a statement of the truism that bad cops are bad, and that any cop who tolerates, defends, or covers up bad behavior within the ranks, ipso facto, is also a bad cop. There is no stereotyping there.
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)Do you know how the old saying goes? A few bad apples spoil the whole barrel.
That means if there are a few bad apples, the whole thing is bad. So buy your own account using that phrase you were admitting the entire system is spoiled and needs fixing
Your choice of language agrees with me, even though you dont realize it
GoneOffShore
(17,340 posts)'One bad apple spoils the entire barrel'
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)Demovictory9
(32,457 posts)KY_EnviroGuy
(14,492 posts)I wouldn't want to be that guy while in the jailhouse.
No cell phone cameras there........
Archae
(46,337 posts)By cops, and had multiple guns and bombs in his van.
And he's white.
Doesn't sound like "Antifa," doe she?
More like if any group, "Boogaloo Boi."
2naSalit
(86,650 posts)soul patch to above his lips, like a certain shitler person back in the 1930/1940s... his whole hair thing looked like that sort of do.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)(NON-Muslim RW extremism 94%. Muslim extremism 4%, LW non-Muslim extremism 2%)
94% based on data collected BEFORE what's happening now. Virtually all of it white male power extremism. We now know that Timothy McVeigh was connected to America's white power network, as have most others been.
Btw, the old saying is that LW extremists blow up buildings, RW extremists blow up people.
At 2% of all violent terrorist acts, it'd also be on point to say that LW extremists mostly just blow up Democratic Party elections when they can.