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Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 12:38 PM Jun 2020

When people talk "Abolish the Police," these are the goals

It is, unfortunately, a very nuance and involved take that cannot be distilled down to anything useful. Hence it ends up at defund or abolish.

But read through this NYT article that talks about how you basically defund and strip away many of the things that the police do that they should not do - as we've seen repeatedly.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/05/us/defund-police-floyd-protests.html

Those who support the movement to scale back the responsibilities of the police say officers frequently abuse their power and instigate violence rather than prevent it. They say many social welfare tasks that currently fall to armed police officers — responding to drug overdoses, and working with people who have a mental illness or are homeless — would be better carried out by nurses or social workers.

One model that members of the Minneapolis City Council cite is Cahoots, a nonprofit mobile crisis intervention program that has handled mental health calls in Eugene, Ore., since 1989. Cahoots employees responded to more than 24,000 calls for service last year — about 20 percent of the area’s 911 calls — on a budget of about $2 million, probably far less than what it would cost the Police Department to do the work, said Tim Black, the program’s operations coordinator.



You then have a smaller but more community oriented group of beat cops that come from these community, aren't dressed like SWAT members, and aren't expected to deal with things that are outside of their scope. With little training given and a mentality of everyone is trying to kill me, you're able to reorient.
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When people talk "Abolish the Police," these are the goals (Original Post) Blue_Adept Jun 2020 OP
We certainly need police forces Sherman A1 Jun 2020 #1
It's CAHOOTS. Crisis Assistance Helping Out On The Streets aidbo Jun 2020 #2
We have CAHOOTS here in Or. This is why I see the more sensitivity of the police here LizBeth Jun 2020 #3
K&R for visibility. crickets Jun 2020 #4

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
1. We certainly need police forces
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 12:45 PM
Jun 2020

We just don't need the current militarized version of police forces. There must be better screening of applicants, better training, very limited if any access to military equipment and a change of mission that highlights public safety.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
3. We have CAHOOTS here in Or. This is why I see the more sensitivity of the police here
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 01:29 PM
Jun 2020

thank anywhere else I live, and it carries out thru out their policing in all way. The chahoots people arrive and take leadership role in the mental aspect of the situation and the police willingly and with support are there as helpers. It seems to be a very good system, from what I see, really reducing the inability of police ability to deal with these situations falling back on abusiveness.

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