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Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 01:45 PM Jun 2020

Kneeling will become the next gimme five...3 olds will be doing it and no one will know its meaning

Maybe I’m overstating i, but I remember when the slap me 5 was the black nationalist handshakes. It was largely viewed as scary and subversive by mainstream whites. It didn’t that that long before the was culturally appropriated and people forgot or never even knew what meant Symbolically ...the black man’s handshake. Somehow it become a cute thing for blande haired three olds to do. Will kneeling go that way too? Will pee wee soccer players kneel before their 15 minutes a side games?

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Kneeling will become the next gimme five...3 olds will be doing it and no one will know its meaning (Original Post) Dream Girl Jun 2020 OP
I worry you are right. It zentrum Jun 2020 #1
So I'm not so bad Betsy Ross Jun 2020 #2
Black people invent lots of stuff. Lots. Of. Stuff. Cracklin Charlie Jun 2020 #5
Good post nt backtoblue Jun 2020 #6
As an "old" I don't think so. We can't get up and down that easily. I'm at the age where, if I drop BamaRefugee Jun 2020 #3
Culturally shared. OneBro Jun 2020 #4
I'm anticipating its trivialization and lose of meaning which is wat happened to the black handshake Dream Girl Jun 2020 #7
You may be right. OneBro Jun 2020 #8
Interesting idea. I need a New project.😏 Dream Girl Jun 2020 #9

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
1. I worry you are right. It
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 01:53 PM
Jun 2020

…..will also be co-opted into corporate logos and branding, as will the phrase "BLM".
Citibank is already doing that in emails to customers.

Betsy Ross

(3,147 posts)
2. So I'm not so bad
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 02:23 PM
Jun 2020

Not being comfortable with giving or receiving a high-five? Always thought it belonged to the Black community.

In an ideal world could share our cultures in a positive atmosphere without abuse and rip-off.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
5. Black people invent lots of stuff. Lots. Of. Stuff.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 02:42 PM
Jun 2020

Does that mean white people around the world aren’t to recognize the importance of those achievements? People of all colors around the globe have adopted the high five as a means of expression, because it conveys their feeling at the time. It’s perfection.

That doesn’t feel like a rip off, to me. It feels like a gift to the world. And black people have given the world many, many gifts, huge gifts, which I will not even attempt to list here.

Do we still get to listen to Aretha, and Keb’ Mo? Because I can’t live in a world where that’s not allowed.

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
3. As an "old" I don't think so. We can't get up and down that easily. I'm at the age where, if I drop
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 02:26 PM
Jun 2020

something on the floor, and have to kneel down to get it, I STAY DOWN for a while, searching, to see if there's anything else I can grab while I'm down there...

OneBro

(1,159 posts)
4. Culturally shared.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 02:31 PM
Jun 2020

Teaching children the underlying history of American culture might address your concerns, but my favorite aspect of America is the stew of everyday acts, sayings, garbs and, of course, foods that are the outcroppings of our shared history and culture. Frankly, the idea of policing whether white women may wear corn rows or whether black women may sport a bottle-blonde do, seems not only exhausting but wholly un-American.

Marian Anderson and Elvis were entertainers, not cultural appropriators. In America, a Mexican family can open a Moroccan restaurant, a black woman can teach ballet, a white guy can rap to his hearts content, and to the horror of Megan Kelly, a black man can play Santa Clause.

Surely we can enjoy freedom of expression while calling out exploitation and mockery when we see it.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
7. I'm anticipating its trivialization and lose of meaning which is wat happened to the black handshake
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 02:59 PM
Jun 2020

I’d bet dollars to donuts that 90% of whites who do it haven’t a clue about its meaning or origin

OneBro

(1,159 posts)
8. You may be right.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 03:40 PM
Jun 2020

But I think the positive remedy is to get it addressed through education, i.e. textbooks and social media. The NYT recently did a great story on how textbooks vary by region in how they approach teaching American history. Not surprisingly, red states take a Fox News approach, such as teaching that slavery was pretty much just indentured servitude with free meals, shelter and clothing in exchange for ((cough)) work. Yea, they say, there were some abuses, but for the most part slave owners were Jesus-type Christians who saved Africans from being eaten by their neighbors.

Sorry, I got into my feelings for a sec. Anyway, consider taking the helm (yes, YOU) to get funding for the research on the varied sources of what becomes “American” culture. Get people involved in the highly political committees that approve/disapprove text books, and get publishers to commit to incorporating the results of your research.

Perhaps even turn your research results into an original Netflix documentary? Yes! (Just don’t forget my fifteen percent plus various travel and incidental expenses. ((Ahem))

Whew, my coffee just kicked in. I’d better log off for a bit. 😁

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