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RandySF

(58,911 posts)
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 02:56 PM Jun 2020

Is Michigan already off the table? Gold standard poll gives him a wide lead.

LANSING — Former Vice President Joe Biden has increased his lead over President Donald Trump to 12 percentage points in Michigan, where voters are unhappy with Trump's response to the coronavirus pandemic, according to a new poll.

Biden, the presumed Democratic nominee, leads Republican Trump in Michigan 53-41, according to a poll conducted by EPIC-MRA of Lansing between May 30 and last Wednesday.

Biden's lead over Trump in Michigan, seen as a key battleground state in the Nov. 3 presidential election, has doubled from six points in January, when Michigan voters favored Biden over Trump 50-44, in an earlier EPIC-MRA survey.


Trump's response to the coronavirus pandemic is not helping him in Michigan, according to the poll of 600 likely voters, which was conducted by live callers and included 40% cellphone participation. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.

Asked about Trump's handling of the pandemic, 58% gave him a negative rating, 41% gave him a positive rating, and 1% were undecided, or refused to say.

In other poll findings:

63% say the country is heading in the wrong direction, up from 50% in January.
If the election was held today, 51% would vote to replace Trump, up from 44% in January.
Independent voters, who often decide Michigan elections, are backing Biden over Trump, 63-23.

U.S. Sen. Gary Peters, a Democrat from Bloomfield Township, leads Republican challenger John James of Farmington Hills, 51-36, with 13% undecided or refusing to say.

Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer got a job performance rating of 55% positive and 43% negative, up from 43-50 in January. And 60% gave her good marks for her handling of the coronavirus pandemic.


https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/06/07/michigan-poll-biden-leading-trump-12-points/3153501001/

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Is Michigan already off the table? Gold standard poll gives him a wide lead. (Original Post) RandySF Jun 2020 OP
NOTHING is a given. Keep the pedal to the metal until there's a QUADUPLE DIGIT lead! ;-) BamaRefugee Jun 2020 #1
It should be off the table for them calguy Jun 2020 #2
Good news, but one sentence has me scratching my head: CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2020 #3
Not everyone answered or made a choice. Kaleva Jun 2020 #5
Ah, got it. Thank you! n/t CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2020 #7
It's hard to believe there are 6% still undecded. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2020 #12
Second sentence "Biden . . . leads Trump 53-41." grantcart Jun 2020 #8
I looked at possible edits by Randy, and he did edit the sentence I found confusing. CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2020 #13
I read it as Biden 53, Trump 41, maybe they fixed it? JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2020 #9
Randy edited the sentence in question. Yup, GOTV is the way to do! CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2020 #14
Vote like we a way behind. A landslide is much better than a close victory. Hoyt Jun 2020 #4
No state is off the table until it is called on Election Day and campaign headquarters confirms it. Aristus Jun 2020 #6
This makes me smile Gothmog Jun 2020 #10
Good.. why would any decent being want ASSFACE? Cha Jun 2020 #17
choosing Whitmer would make even more a guarantee. jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #11
Keep campaigning hard in every winnable state oswaldactedalone Jun 2020 #15
In EVERY state. IllinoisBirdWatcher Jun 2020 #18
It's a Good Start for "him".. BIDEN! Cha Jun 2020 #16
Good news, but a lot of time left... Wounded Bear Jun 2020 #19
People don't like to admit they are racist to pollsters MoonlitKnight Jun 2020 #20
NOTHING IS OFF THE TABLE! redstatebluegirl Jun 2020 #21
Probably, but it's still early. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #22
This is why I moved back safeinOhio Jun 2020 #23

calguy

(5,315 posts)
2. It should be off the table for them
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 03:00 PM
Jun 2020

but not for ud. We need to pound it hard for the next 149 days. Trump hasn't even begun to roll out his misinformation machine backed by unlimited money.
Take nothing for granted.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,640 posts)
3. Good news, but one sentence has me scratching my head:
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 03:01 PM
Jun 2020
Biden leads Trump by 12 points, with 53 percent support compared to Biden’s 41 percent...

This doesn't read right. Did they get the digits mixed up, or am I not seeing what was meant?

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
12. It's hard to believe there are 6% still undecded.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 03:14 PM
Jun 2020

Maybe there are a few holding out for Justin Amash, Jill Stein, etc.

Biden? Trump? Hmm, they are so alike, hard to decide ...

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,640 posts)
13. I looked at possible edits by Randy, and he did edit the sentence I found confusing.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 03:16 PM
Jun 2020

Thread info will show you what I mean.

He did fix it after I voiced my puzzled question.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
9. I read it as Biden 53, Trump 41, maybe they fixed it?
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 03:11 PM
Jun 2020

Or maybe I missed the sentence you saw.

Anyway, the story also mentioned that H. Clinton had a 10-point lead in some polls, but lost the state. We have to get out the vote.

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
6. No state is off the table until it is called on Election Day and campaign headquarters confirms it.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 03:08 PM
Jun 2020

The GOP is going to be exerting frantic efforts to steal this election. Changing or losing votes, or disputing them until someone gives up, requires a lot of hard work.

It's a lot easier to just keep those votes at home and away from the polls.

Promoting 'foregone conclusion' stories may not work as well this year as it did in 2016, but since it worked last time, there's no reason for them not to try again.

Get out and vote.

I don't care if polls say Trump's only remaining voting base is six guys in a tarpaper shack in East Nowheresville. Get out and vote.

oswaldactedalone

(3,491 posts)
15. Keep campaigning hard in every winnable state
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 03:21 PM
Jun 2020

We saw what happened in '16 when Robby Mook thought those states were in the bag. They are must wins and must be treated as such with maximum effort through 11-3.

IllinoisBirdWatcher

(2,315 posts)
18. In EVERY state.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 04:05 PM
Jun 2020

Yes, spend resources in winnable states, but the cost of people-powered ground pounding is low and forces them to defend everywhere. Today's huge equality movement needs to become tomorrow's GOTV.

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
19. Good news, but a lot of time left...
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 04:08 PM
Jun 2020

We need an overwhelming win. I'm talking an over-fucking-whelming curb stomping of epic, historical proportions.

That would make me happy come November.

MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
20. People don't like to admit they are racist to pollsters
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 04:09 PM
Jun 2020

Don’t trust the polls - vote.

And get at least ten others to vote.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
22. Probably, but it's still early.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 04:14 PM
Jun 2020

Like others wrote, let's not take anything for granted.

If the polling is still that wide when we're close to November, then it might be wise to devote more money to ads in Ohio or other purple states.

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