And it is easily better phrased.
Jargon counts for a lot nowadays & keep it simple.

I think that's the correct phrase.

Reformation from the ground up including examination of policies, vetting and other factors. Also, demilitarization is crucial. Enough of the military/Fascist look and feel. We need to pull back and out of a growing "police state" before it gets worse and more out of hand.

We need citizens advisory boards and professional oversight by activist academicians and progressives in the field of police science.

We need to reform the police from the ground up and deal with the negative and toxic impact that the police unions have.

That will take funding, so yes, defund doesn't even really make sense and sounds like a ruse.

TBH, I've been pretty alarmed by the calls to "defund the police." Major police reform is needed, but I don't think eliminating them or cutting their funding is the answer. What is needed is retraining and better hiring practices. What is needed is the "8 Can't Wait" reforms that President Obama and others have been pushing. "Defund the police" just sounds crazy, and I can't help but agree that whoever is pushing that may be trying to sabotage Biden.

I appreciate your input on that.

I guess we will all just have to use our voices when and where we can to point out the absurdity of the term and point it in the right direction, as we have done here.

November 3rd will eventually appear on the calendar.

Then we will put this crap behind us.

scares law enforcement.

Nationalize the Police.

Breaks apart all these thousands of agencies, takes away local corrupt power.

LEOs have feared it for years.

They'll have to face real consequences when they're caught committing abuses.

They're also afraid that some of reforms will include things like taking their military toys away, and with all sorts of reforms designed to break up the toxic bro-culture that seems to infest so many PDs.

and they should, because they earned it.

(It pains me to say that but he is right)

after his horrendous response to Covid-19 and the George Floyd protests.

He plans to pull his base and moderates back toward him by scaring them with this issue.

Let’s not give him any ammunition.

way too smart.. But it sure makes this old liberal smile when I see it .

Way to just hand Trump a talking point.

The discussions that are being had are about transforming what policing looks like: Reform the police. Reinvent policing. Demilitarize the police. And so on. These are winning talking points for a cause that a vast majority of Americans are sympathetic to right now

This feels like a moment we can seize upon. I don't want it to be squandered by impetuous language.

Rick Wilson has been spot on this whole campaign. His book "Running Against The Devil" is excellent.

Give the police blank bullets. Solves the 'oops, shot the POC!' incidents.

Give them pepper spray devices but no pepper in them.

Give them tazers but no charge in them.

Then, they have to use their manners, wit, and ability to appeal to peoples' better nature to do the right thing.
And the ability to do some non-lethal wrestling, if those don't work, of course.

Wasn't that long ago that UK bobbies and Australian police went on duty without any weapons at all.
(Just the single rifle in the trunk of the squad car, and a direct phone link to special armed squads.)

Unfortunately, Australian police now wear black uniforms and wear utility belts much like the US police. A backward step.

How are you different than them?

Yes, work on the message. But WE need to learn about what is being said and make decisions based on facts not fears.

A whole bunch of voters that we need will run from that.
JMHO

and turn them back into community police, part of the community instead of an unofficial branch of the military.

They've sort of done that here in NM, where they ended civil asset forfeiture by state and local cops. Now the DEA is about the only outfit that can rob you of personal property without charging you with a crime.

I admit it is a counterproductive slogan, but "demilitarize the police" just isn't as catchy. Too bad, because I think a lot of RWNJs might be on board with it.

Nobody with a functioning brain wants to do without some sort of police, the alternative is not generally good when you see it in developing countries. What needs to happen is a sea change that will get them away from Nixon's policy of turning them into a quasi military force because like our present lunatic, he was afraid of a peaceful assembly of mostly children.

And, I don't think it's exactly what people mean. We can do better.

I hear a few saying "We don't mean defund ALL of the police."

Except that's not what FOX "News" will say.

And Uncle Elmer and Aunt Edna will have the nuance go in one ear and out the other.

Bad wording, bad framing. And Rick Wilson and Steve Schmidt are Sith Lords of framing, so we should be taking notes.

"Police the police" is a much better slogan.