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Cary

(11,746 posts) Mon Jun 8, 2020, 11:48 AM Jun 2020

Orange Hitler will be gone

I am as certain as that can be.

Orange Hitler is a symptom. The pathology is whatever makes people enable Orange Hitler.

I would prefer to avoid going through this again. We must put serious thought into this.

Be advised: I will ignore anyone doing the "you want re-education camp" shtick.

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Orange Hitler will be gone (Original Post) Cary Jun 2020 OP

"The pathology is whatever makes people enable Orange Hitler." ARPad95 Jun 2020 #1

No doubt but it is more than that Cary Jun 2020 #3

No complacency awesomerwb1 Jun 2020 #2

i know this too. mopinko Jun 2020 #4

This is why there must be consequences. gibraltar72 Jun 2020 #5

I agree with your concept Cary Jun 2020 #6

ARPad95

(1,671 posts)

1. "The pathology is whatever makes people enable Orange Hitler."

Reply to Cary (Original post)

Mon Jun 8, 2020, 11:51 AM

Jun 2020

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The pathology is white (mostly male) supremacy and the malignant narcissism that produces it.

Cary

(11,746 posts)

3. No doubt but it is more than that

Reply to ARPad95 (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 8, 2020, 12:13 PM

Jun 2020

Pathological lying. Willingness to cheat to acquire power. Unwillingness to compromise. Anti-intellectualism. Irrational loathing of Hillary Clinton. There's more.

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)

2. No complacency

Reply to Cary (Original post)

Mon Jun 8, 2020, 11:52 AM

Jun 2020

We need to work harder than ever to GOTV.

We need to work with the mindset that we want to bury these mofos forever. It has to be a complete rejection of their ideology. Plus we need to get the Senate as well.

Never again.

mopinko

(70,135 posts)

4. i know this too.

Reply to Cary (Original post)

Mon Jun 8, 2020, 12:19 PM

Jun 2020

gibraltar72

(7,506 posts)

5. This is why there must be consequences.

Reply to Cary (Original post)

Mon Jun 8, 2020, 02:06 PM

Jun 2020

A warning has to be sent that we won't allow this again. The next one will be much smarter.

Cary

(11,746 posts)

6. I agree with your concept

Reply to gibraltar72 (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 8, 2020, 02:46 PM

Jun 2020

I am not sure that I would call it "consequences." What would we look for?

1. Punishment.While this might provide a deterrence I don't think there is empirical evidence to support that. True criminal behavior should be prosecuted.

2. Rehabilitation. Again, this is fraught with all kinds of problems including the fact that it doesn't work.

3. Demoralization, so fascists cannot regroup any time soon.

4. Prevention. Weakening the presidency.

5. Exposure. Put all of.the information out there.

I don't know the answer but we have our work cut out for us. None of their crap is new. They are fascists. I would like to hear from better minds than my own as to how to inoculate ourselves better.

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