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Trump's favorite poll shows him getting trounced by Joe Biden.
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riversedge
(70,242 posts)fierywoman
(7,686 posts)spread even wider!)
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)admit aloud to a pollster that they have given up on Trump and are voting for Biden. They are in the "denial" stage of grief.
ProfessorGAC
(65,076 posts)In the CNN poll here in GD, it's 55-41, Biden.
There's a 4% undecideds there. (Or committed 3rd party)
16% seems an enormous number, unless there were choices not published here.
BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)DANGEROUS, can easily change the entire situation.
gristy
(10,667 posts)Yes, the electoral college elects our president.
There is a strong correlation between national polling and polling in key states.
BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)EarlG
(21,949 posts)The final result (popular vote) was Clinton +2.1, which gave Trump an electoral college victory as he won a few thousand additional votes in the handful of swing states that he needed. If Biden can do better than +2.1, he stands a good chance of squeaking out the victory.
That said, since Biden started running, Trump has not been able to get within 4 points of him. The current RCP national average is Biden +7.8.
For historical comparison, the final RCP national average in 2012 was Obama +0.7. He won by +3.9 and took 332 electoral college votes to Romney's 206. In 2008, the final polling average was Obama +7.6 and he won by +7.3. That year, Obama took 365 electoral college votes to McCain's 173.
So with all due respect to the usual disclaimers about not resting on our laurels, getting out the vote, etc., we are in a significantly better position now than we were in 2016. In fact, polling currently looks more like 2008 than anything else.
BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)their reptilian brain is going to click automatically into "OH MY GOD FETUSES AND GAY PEOPLE TAKING OUR GUNS" and they're gonna vote just the same way they always have.
I've been voting since 1970, and we've never had it easy. I voted for George McGovern, Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale, Michael Dukakis, Bill Clinton, Al Gore, John Kerry, Barack Obama, and Hillary Clinton. All great people, but only 1/3 of them won.
My point is, even if EVERY SINGLE CITIZEN votes for Biden in almost every state, it means nothing. We could have a 20 million popular vote margin, but just a few states, by a few thousand votes, can win it for trump.
We have to keep playing as if we're 3 touchdowns behind.
Happy Hoosier
(7,314 posts)There is a difference between saying a national lead does not guarantee a victory and saying they mean nothing. Of course they mea something. And given that Joe's current lead is quite large, it means quite a lot. But it does mean that this is in the bag.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Real numbers would be Biden 48.5, Turd 35.5
Doodley
(9,095 posts)lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)If the GOP had any huevos they would find another candidate.
TlalocW
(15,384 posts)Take off a couple points on the republican and put it on the democrat because they try their hardest to swing their polling conservatively so it could be 35% to 49%, but to be under CNN's polling of Trump at 38%, that's something.
TlalocW