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JPPaverage

(508 posts)
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 06:09 PM Jun 2020

I am a Union man

My late dad was a Union man as was one of my uncles.
I have been a steward on three different occasions and almost always support my Union brothers and sisters. Because, without Unions, we are even more screwed than we already are. But...having said this, I simply cannot support the police unions across the country. The only thing they seem to be doing for their membership is making sure they can go out and kill more minorities. And as a conscientious (thank goodness for spell check) human being, there is no way I can support that. They are not my Union brothers. They need to clean up their ranks and weed out the bad people. Then maybe they'd get some support.

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I am a Union man (Original Post) JPPaverage Jun 2020 OP
Unions Rock. LakeArenal Jun 2020 #1
Less like a union safeinOhio Jun 2020 #2
The Police Union's are run by people, yortsed snacilbuper Jun 2020 #3
Not A Union Member ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #6
I believe it is true that many "police unions" do not call themselves unions and are not Atticus Jun 2020 #4
That's what I heard. Karadeniz Jun 2020 #5
If you are talking about the Wellstone ruled Jun 2020 #7
I posted yesterday No one is more union that I gibraltar72 Jun 2020 #8
Agree trof Jun 2020 #9

yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
3. The Police Union's are run by people,
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 06:26 PM
Jun 2020

people usually protect their friends no matter what they do.

The union I was in, if you got caught stealing from the company, the union wouldn't help you.

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
6. Not A Union Member
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 06:40 PM
Jun 2020

Dad was a Teamster though.
At the company from which I retired, they would go to the mattresses for people who were just not real good at the job, or not popular, or a chronic, minor screw up.
But, they would just stamp "approved" if termination was for negligence causing a safety or environmental event. They were not going to defend someone who screwed up beyond a certain line.
They felt that major dereliction jeopardized everybody's livelihood.
I agreed with their positions 95% of the time in the former cases, (full admission that i disagreed with their defending some folks who never got better & didn't seem to care) and 100% in the latter.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
4. I believe it is true that many "police unions" do not call themselves unions and are not
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 06:33 PM
Jun 2020

members of local union councils or the AFL-CIO. Many such groups are "associations" or "fraternal orders".

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
7. If you are talking about the
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 06:45 PM
Jun 2020

MPLS Police Federation,well they are not recognized by the Twin Cities Labor Council. At one time decades ago,Mpls PD were Teamster 120 members,which btw,represented the bulk of Sherriff Departments as well as many State wide Police Departments.

gibraltar72

(7,506 posts)
8. I posted yesterday No one is more union that I
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 07:11 PM
Jun 2020

Have been Steward, chairman of bargaining committee, President, organizer for 4 states. Police unions have to be dealt with. The culture is corrupt in most, not all but most.

trof

(54,256 posts)
9. Agree
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 07:13 PM
Jun 2020

I was AFL-CIO for most of my 35+ year aviation career.
Police unions are a whole different thing.
Police Protective Societies.

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