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Bernie Sanders endorses in the KY-SEN Primary (Original Post) brooklynite Jun 2020 OP
The Political Judgement Of A Mollusk, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2020 #1
I wonder if he'll endorse someone in NY-14 (AOC's district) brooklynite Jun 2020 #2
Actually winning elections is a tertiary concern to the O.R. crowd BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #3
Ms. McGrath has a chance of beating Mitch. BlueLucy Jun 2020 #6
Might help Amy Captain_New_York Jun 2020 #4
All of this will be moot after the June 23rd primary Brother Buzz Jun 2020 #11
Immediately giving a few dollars to Amy Mcgrath ismnotwasm Jun 2020 #5
Sigh. Perhaps as an ideological "independent," even NOW, which party Hortensis Jun 2020 #7
Young and old, black, brown and white... OilemFirchen Jun 2020 #10
"Straight out of the JD playbook." Yup. Suspect they Hortensis Jun 2020 #22
That Is a Level Of Bullshit, Ma'am, Ought To Get This Booker Fella Tossed On A Scrap-Hrap The Magistrate Jun 2020 #14
Huh? From what I've read, he's a member of the legislature Hortensis Jun 2020 #16
If, Ma'am, He Is Charging Ms. McGrath Will Help Trump, He Is Worse Than A Fool The Magistrate Jun 2020 #17
I don't like it either, and it relies on a dishonest twist of Hortensis Jun 2020 #18
The more I know about Bernie, the more I despise him. smirkymonkey Jun 2020 #26
Once again, he endorses someone who cannot win. MineralMan Jun 2020 #8
Bernie makes all the right people angry. aidbo Jun 2020 #9
The problem is when he makes all the wrong people happy. Hortensis Jun 2020 #12
Joe Sonka who is in the know about KY politics liskddksil Jun 2020 #13
Two weeks; June 23 brooklynite Jun 2020 #23
Why is he still collecting for his campaign? lapucelle Jun 2020 #15
I'm shocked he chose not to endorse a woman. tishaLA Jun 2020 #19
This is why we can't have nice things. Midnight Writer Jun 2020 #20
MSNBC's Chris Hayes hosted a lenghty interview w/Booker Monday. oasis Jun 2020 #21
Its called a Primary. When the primary is over we will unite around the nominee nt liskddksil Jun 2020 #24
I hope you don't mind if I comment about what's going on before then.nt oasis Jun 2020 #25

The Magistrate

(95,249 posts)
1. The Political Judgement Of A Mollusk, Sir
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 12:11 PM
Jun 2020

Ms. McGrath actually has a chance of defeating McConnell. Sanders' endorsement will make no difference at all, certainly, but still --- a stupid damn thing to do.

brooklynite

(94,679 posts)
2. I wonder if he'll endorse someone in NY-14 (AOC's district)
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 12:13 PM
Jun 2020

He seems to like challenging Democratic incumbents.

BannonsLiver

(16,434 posts)
3. Actually winning elections is a tertiary concern to the O.R. crowd
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 12:19 PM
Jun 2020

Ideological purity is viewed as being more important than actually winning, gaining political power etc.

BlueLucy

(1,609 posts)
6. Ms. McGrath has a chance of beating Mitch.
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 12:28 PM
Jun 2020

The guy Bernie endorsed does not. Right now, Rose twitter is going after McGrath in a rather vicious and nasty way. All they're doing is weakening her for the GE.

Brother Buzz

(36,452 posts)
11. All of this will be moot after the June 23rd primary
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 12:47 PM
Jun 2020

Booker, at best, will carry Louisville, Kentucky. Then, like a good Democrat, he will throw everything in and support McGrath, and even stump for her.

In turn, Senator McGrath will support Booker down the road, when he runs for congress. That is, when Yarmuth announces his retirement. Booker is young, and Yarmuth still has a couple of years left, so it will be down the road a bit.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. Sigh. Perhaps as an ideological "independent," even NOW, which party
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 12:33 PM
Jun 2020

controls the senate and/or getting that democracy-destroyer Mitch McConnell out of power are less important to him than making an ideological statement or paying off a campaign debt.

Newsweek 1 hour ago: Amy McGrath Takes Narrow Lead Over Mitch McConnell in Kentucky Senate Race, Poll Shows

The polling, which was conducted by RMG Group, shows McGrath, a former Marine fighter pilot, with the support of 41 percent of voters, while McConnell is backed by 40 percent. However, the polling also showed that when voters are informed that McGrath supports congressional term limits while McConnell does not, her lead over the Republican jumps significantly.

With the candidates' positions on term limits factored in, McGrath was backed by 45 percent of respondents, while McConnell was supported by just 30 percent. But 17 percent of those surveyed were still undecided, and 8 percent said they'd vote for a different candidate.

Hopefully, Booker's undermining doesn't eat into McGrath's support when she faces off against McConnell in the GE. Formerly obscure, he's now getting a big surge of attention from George Floyd's murder. In contrast to Sanders' endorsement, though, he seems to be trying to paint himself as a male mainstream liberal alternative to McGrath.

Charles Booker paints Amy McGrath as someone who will ‘help Trump’ in his first TV ad

The ad uses language that downplays some of Booker’s more progressive views, opting for the term “healthcare for all” instead of touting his support of Medicare for All, and using the phrase “a living wage for all” instead of universal basic income, which are two major pillars of his campaign.

It also shows a picture of Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear when Booker talks about how Democrats need to mobilize “young and old, black, brown and white, fighting for real change.” Beshear, who has surged in popularity during the coronavirus pandemic, is from the more moderate wing of the Kentucky Democratic Party.

https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article243390726.html

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
10. Young and old, black, brown and white...
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 12:44 PM
Jun 2020

but not male and female. Straight out of the JD playbook.

And, of course, McGrath, at 45, is a whopping ten years older than Booker.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. "Straight out of the JD playbook." Yup. Suspect they
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 02:01 PM
Jun 2020

believe keeping a mainstream Democrat like McGrath out of the senate is more important than worrying about McConnell and cabal.

Strange phenom, far-lefties who must always oppose the dominant liberal power bloc, even to the point of supporting inimical RW powers to do it. Political psychologists have explanations of course, but I've never been to "feel" what goes on in their heads enough to understand.

The Magistrate

(95,249 posts)
14. That Is a Level Of Bullshit, Ma'am, Ought To Get This Booker Fella Tossed On A Scrap-Hrap
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 01:07 PM
Jun 2020

Destructive, self-indulgent swill that's rancid well before its sell-by date....

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. Huh? From what I've read, he's a member of the legislature
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 01:20 PM
Jun 2020

who ran as a way to promote his name. Is there something big I don't know? Of course, then George Floyd was murdered and he and practically every black candidate in the nation got a big boost in attention, which surely he shouldn't be blamed for?

Now he's riding the zeitgeist roller-coaster, including Sanders' endorsement, but will lose the primary as always expected anyway. Senators have to represent most of a state, and that's quite a trick for someone like Booker to pull off. (Sanders does it in a small-population state by keeping in good with VT's conservative voters and making sure their liberal Democrats have no one else to vote for.)

Seems to me what matters is how much damage, if any, this unexpected change in dynamics does to McGrath's chances to kick McConnell out of the senate.

The Magistrate

(95,249 posts)
17. If, Ma'am, He Is Charging Ms. McGrath Will Help Trump, He Is Worse Than A Fool
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 01:25 PM
Jun 2020

That seems to be the import of his advertisement, that she will 'just help Trump get his way' if elected. That is unforgivable conduct in a primary, particularly from a long-shot against someone who has a chance at evicting the wretch who sees to it Trump gets his way.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. I don't like it either, and it relies on a dishonest twist of
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 01:36 PM
Jun 2020

something she said to imply she supports Trump's positions. She spoke of Trump betraying KY voters who believed him.

Noting that BOTH Trump and Sanders promised to repeal the ACA and replace it with a FAR better program that costed MUCH less, while Democrats promised to finish the ACA to provide universal healthcare, the only one of the three who could deliver on the promises. Lots of opportunity for verbal chicanery there.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
26. The more I know about Bernie, the more I despise him.
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:54 PM
Jun 2020

I really just wish he would take his ball and go home. He always has to be a spoiler. This is all about his ego. I am so damned tired of his bullshit!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. The problem is when he makes all the wrong people happy.
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 12:54 PM
Jun 2020

However, in this case, since this Sanders' endorsee is hiding his leanings to portray himself as a mainstream Democrat, aligning with mainstream Dem. Gov. Beshear and Amy McGrath herself, hopefully in the end he'll be seen mainly as a black male version of McGrath and end up reinforcing the Democratic message.

lapucelle

(18,303 posts)
15. Why is he still collecting for his campaign?
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 01:13 PM
Jun 2020
Please split a contribution between six congressional candidates and our campaign. Together we must elect a Congress that stands with working people, not wealthy campaign contributors.

oasis

(49,398 posts)
21. MSNBC's Chris Hayes hosted a lenghty interview w/Booker Monday.
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 01:56 PM
Jun 2020

Booker didn't hesitate throwing shade on Democratic opponent Amy McGrath.

Booker hasn't got a prayer of beating Moscow Mitch, but why would he stoop to driving down Amy's numbers in the G.E.?

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