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bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
Sat Jun 13, 2020, 02:34 PM Jun 2020

Lovelace Women's Hospital, Albuquerque, secretly screens pregnant Native women for virus, separates

Sepates Native women from newborn.

Article title Genocide: the Covid Frontier

Horrific tale at lawyersgunsmoney

I found report bit confusing as to details

Seems clear they're treating Native women and their newborn differently.

See what you think

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frazzled

(18,402 posts)
3. This is policy at almost all hospitals during pandemic
Sat Jun 13, 2020, 03:10 PM
Jun 2020

Everyone who comes in for delivery is tested for COVID-19, and if positive, they are put in a separate labor/delivery section from non-positive people and the baby is taken to neonatal intensive care, as a precaution, for a period.

Here's an example from the Chicago region:

Faber, of Darien, had tested positive for COVID-19 while giving birth at Advocate Good Samaritan Hospital in Downers Grove, so the baby was taken to neonatal intensive care as a precaution.

Faber didn’t get to touch her child. It would be 12 days before she could hold him.

Faber was devastated, but she understood.“It was just disheartening because what could I do?” said Faber, 39. “All I kept thinking was, I just want to make sure he’s OK. I wanted him to be safe.”

Chicago-area hospitals, and others across the country, are recommending that mothers with COVID-19 be separated from their newborns right after birth, in line with guidance from the American Academy of Pediatrics. They are often apart in the hospital for at least 24 hours, until the baby can go home with the parents — including the mom, who’s advised to keep her distance — or other family members.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-coronavirus-giving-birth-while-covid-positive-illinois-20200515-gi4psnu7enderfd5uac3e6fhsq-story.html

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. Thanks for solid information and rational input.
Sat Jun 13, 2020, 03:18 PM
Jun 2020

Poor parents and babies, but it has to be for their sakes.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
5. I understood hospital was only doing this to Native women, even if others do it to all
Sat Jun 13, 2020, 03:34 PM
Jun 2020

As I said in OP, I found article bit confusing

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. Sure. That is what it implied, but I have to apologize.
Sat Jun 13, 2020, 04:27 PM
Jun 2020

Propublica, a very highly regarded investigative journalism source that mostly focuses on social justice issues, is reporting on what happened at that hospital.

A Hospital’s Secret Coronavirus Policy Separated Native American Mothers From Their Newborns

Pregnant Native American women were singled out for COVID-19 testing based on their race and ZIP code, clinicians say. While awaiting results, some mothers were separated from their newborns, depriving them of the immediate contact doctors recommend.

Lovelace Women’s Hospital in Albuquerque implemented a secretive policy in recent months to conduct special coronavirus screenings for pregnant women, based on whether they appeared to be Native American, even if they had no symptoms or were otherwise at low risk for the disease, according to clinicians.

The hospital screens all arriving patients for COVID-19 with temperature checks and asks them whether they’ve been in contact with people who have the illness. But for soon-to-be moms who appeared to be Native American, there was an additional step, according to clinicians interviewed on the condition they not be named.

https://www.propublica.org/article/a-hospitals-secret-coronavirus-policy-separated-native-american-mothers-from-their-newborns?utm_source=pardot&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=majorinvestigations&utm_content=feature

Separation from newborns under those circumstances is standard practice, but the testing policy itself was "secretive" and seemingly not fully disclosed to all patients for their informed consent.

kcr

(15,317 posts)
6. This is different. The hospital already had the policy you mention
Sat Jun 13, 2020, 03:40 PM
Jun 2020

But they were singling out women who they thought looked Native American, and singled them out for additional testing without their consent, even if they had no symptoms. All done in secret. Because the hospital doesn't have a quick test, mothers subjected to this additional testing were separated from their newborns until the results came back.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
7. Well, here (and most hospitals) all incoming women are tested, symptoms or not /with update edit
Sat Jun 13, 2020, 03:44 PM
Jun 2020

I listened to the head of obstetrics at a major hospital talk about this procedure.

I would be very surprised if the hospital in question were not testing everyone. They should be, for sure.

ON EDIT: I did a bit of further research. Here are the regulations at Lovelace for labor/delivery:

ovelace Women’s Hospital is here for you to help keep you and your baby safe. We are taking steps to ensure a safe delivery for you and your baby during this time, including:

Daily COVID-19 screenings for all patients and staff – temperature checks and daily questionnaires about potential exposure
COVID-19 tests administered to patients that are high risk
Separate facilities for treating COVID-19 patients and those awaiting COVID test results
All patients, staff and visitors are required to wear a mask

https://lovelace.com/services/labor-delivery


And here would explain the "high risk" categorization for the Native American population. Is it racist? I don't know, given the scarily high proportion of the cases. On the other hand, it would be better if ALL patients were tested.

In 2020, Native Americans across New Mexico, the majority of whom live on remote tribal lands, are dying of COVID-19 at rates 19 times that of all other populations combined, according to data provided by the state Department of Health. They account for 57% of the state’s cases – despite only being 11% of the population – and have infection rates 14 times that of the rest of the population. Other states have also had disproportionately high rates of COVID in Native communities.

“Unfortunately, American Indians have the worst health status for infectious diseases,” said Dr. Michael Landen, the state epidemiologist, with the New Mexico Department of Health. “I would have expected to see a higher rate among American Indians. I would not have expected to see it this much higher; this is just so disproportionate

https://www.abqjournal.com/1461218/huge-disparity-in-covid19-death-rates-for-native-americans-in-nm.html


kcr

(15,317 posts)
9. If everything was on the up and up, they wouldn't have done it in secret
Sun Jun 14, 2020, 02:53 PM
Jun 2020

based on whether someone "looks Native American".

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