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The problem is they allow the wrong people to become law enforcement officers. Police departments need to change the way they recruit and train police. The bar is obviously very low. Im not going to say every police officer is an idiot or a racist, but they have got to get those who are out of the departments.
Mr. Brooks was running away. He was not a threat to them. These cops need to be charged with murder.
It is the 21st goddamn century and were still dealing with this?
captain queeg
(10,248 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)when its a wanton, especially armed, criminal where there is a good chance if they get away they will harm other people. I think in that case, you have to stop them, but not necessarily emptying your gun at them.
In others cases, like what appeared to happen in Atlanta, shooting is questionable. This one does have an obvious struggle and a suspect grabbing a taser, but in the comfort of my house, not having to make a split second decision the shooting doesnt appear necessary. Then again, if they pulled him out of car, threw him down, got on his back to handcuff him to avoid any chance of a struggle, they would have been criticized too.
My gut says that they should have let him run, and tracked him down, unless they knew he beat up the driver and carjacked the car. That aint the case here.
zak247
(251 posts)or that citizen was hurt or killed.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)bmbmd
(3,088 posts)say, 1963-My family got a VIP tour of the FBI building with Deke DeLoach his own self. (My aunt was an LBJ assistant/advisor) As a nine year old boy, I was most interested in the shooting gallery. Mr. DeLoach said he needed to re-certify anyway, so he picked up a tommy gun and fired away at a silhouette target. My sister still has that target-positive points for knees and legs, negative points for head and chest. There was a time when law officers were taught "shoot to stop". Now, seems to be "shoot to kill". (Spoiler-he shot the target's knees out with surgical precision).
Corgigal
(9,291 posts)Besides, they had the car with a vin and a tag.
Wendys could have towed the car, the cops wouldnt get a DUI, but the driver would have to pay an expensive tow.
Im so confused what has changed in law enforcement. Maybe its the people they hire now, or more likely the training of us vs them. It wasnt always that way.
Then again, the Republican Party also confuses me. What they use to represent and what they do now.
We have to make this all better.
quickesst
(6,283 posts)....is that after grabbing the taser the man turned around and fired it at the officer. Is that a reason for the officer to shoot him in the back? Of course not. A taser is a non-lethal weapon, and the officer shot this man after the taser had been deployed and was no longer a threat. It will be a talking point for his defense, but should easily be taken apart by any competent prosecutor. This is a murder, as sure as mr. Floyd was murdered, and the officer should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. This shit has to stop.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)They seem to do all their training there.
zak247
(251 posts)says only if a cop feels he or the public or another officer is in danger can they shoot.
A few, red states of course, like Florida have reasons other than that to shoot.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)preventing an escape.
1. A police officer or a peace officer...
except that
deadly physical force may be used for such purposes only when he or she
reasonably believes that:
(a) The offense committed by such person was:
(i) a felony or an attempt to commit a felony involving the use or
attempted use or threatened imminent use of physical force against a
person; or
(ii) kidnapping, arson, escape in the first degree, burglary in the
first degree or any attempt to commit such a crime; or
(b) The offense committed or attempted by such person was a felony and
that, in the course of resisting arrest therefor or attempting to escape
from custody, such person is armed with a firearm or deadly weapon; or
(c) Regardless of the particular offense which is the subject of the
arrest or attempted escape, the use of deadly physical force is
necessary to defend the police officer or peace officer or another
person from what the officer reasonably believes to be the use or
imminent use of deadly physical force.