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A Trump Adviser says Trump might just walk away before the Election (per MORNING JOE) (Original Post) brooklynite Jun 2020 OP
I'm not going to hold my breath for that Best_man23 Jun 2020 #1
Health reasons and a pardon from Pence would probably be his best shot at staying out of jail. sunonmars Jun 2020 #3
Agree! True Blue American Jun 2020 #7
Pence may have to think about that one. safeinOhio Jun 2020 #8
A Pence pardon would not prevent NY state prosecutions vlyons Jun 2020 #10
Shhh... let's not let Twittler figure that out. ;) Grown2Hate Jun 2020 #37
No, but a deal would. nt Hortensis Jun 2020 #38
GOP might be okay with that if they're expecting a loss anyway Ex Lurker Jun 2020 #36
"Republicans retain the Senate." mitch96 Jun 2020 #46
Reality about the election has finally broken through Trump's bubble. Hortensis Jun 2020 #42
Once again 538 said trump could win with the effed up electoral college mucifer Jun 2020 #2
Keep this in mind oswaldactedalone Jun 2020 #13
Not exactly. StevieM Jun 2020 #21
So now it's china and putin mucifer Jun 2020 #23
Let's not forget that the current Attorney General of the United States is a career criminal. (eom) StevieM Jun 2020 #45
From their lips to God's ears! catrose Jun 2020 #4
Time to double down and safeinOhio Jun 2020 #5
:) True Blue American Jun 2020 #9
This oswaldactedalone Jun 2020 #15
This attitude True Blue American Jun 2020 #6
The only way to get him out Alpeduez21 Jun 2020 #11
Yes oswaldactedalone Jun 2020 #16
I haven't been able to watch a Ilsa Jun 2020 #20
Same here. The ultimate sin is she destroyed Rocky Horror for me. not_the_one Jun 2020 #43
She ruined Bull Durham for me obamanut2012 Jun 2020 #44
People have been saying that since 2016 StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #12
Hard to believe that . . .. Iliyah Jun 2020 #14
Would not surprise me one bit but how would that work regarding the election? honest.abe Jun 2020 #17
... 2naSalit Jun 2020 #18
He didn't walk away in 2016. He won't walk away in 2020. tman Jun 2020 #19
So he'll do something to paralyze the nation and disrupt the election Mr. Ected Jun 2020 #22
I think if he started a was just before the elections, safeinOhio Jun 2020 #24
But the GOP would rally around him and the MAGATs would take to the streets Mr. Ected Jun 2020 #25
I posited this theory awhile back SoonerPride Jun 2020 #26
I agree 100% whopis01 Jun 2020 #41
If that were to happen, State of New York would.... ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2020 #27
In case you need visuals soothsayer Jun 2020 #28
He might take a trip before election and have his personal security hijack AF-1 to Moscow LiberalArkie Jun 2020 #29
No way. He'll only leave in cuffs. lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #30
Trump may very well say the GOP didn't support and appreciate him enough, that Trump would have won, wiggs Jun 2020 #31
trump would never be that good to us. Paladin Jun 2020 #32
K and R,... Thank You for the post.. Stuart G Jun 2020 #33
Everybody I know who voted for tRump in 2016 will vote for him again. njhoneybadger Jun 2020 #34
will never happen SiliconValley_Dem Jun 2020 #35
I find it doubtful. cwydro Jun 2020 #39
Pence Would Get Slaughtered ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #47
Perhaps, but who else would they go with? cwydro Jun 2020 #48
Probably Only Option ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #49
Wouldn't thT be great if he did? Nt raccoon Jun 2020 #40

Best_man23

(4,907 posts)
1. I'm not going to hold my breath for that
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 08:44 AM
Jun 2020

The spectre of sealed federal and state indictments against him and his crime family will keep him there until he is voted out.

Ex Lurker

(3,816 posts)
36. GOP might be okay with that if they're expecting a loss anyway
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 10:16 AM
Jun 2020

Trump quits, the air goes out of the campaign, lots of Democrats don't show up to vote, Republicans retain the Senate.

mitch96

(13,924 posts)
46. "Republicans retain the Senate."
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 01:13 PM
Jun 2020

bit your tongue..... that would be bad if we don't get the senate also... Nothing would work in another McTurtle senate....
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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
42. Reality about the election has finally broken through Trump's bubble.
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 10:35 AM
Jun 2020

While speaking about the RV industry recently, he whined that maybe he'd buy one and drive back to NY with Melania in the trailer. Now, that's a cartoon picture I want to see!

But seriously, he and his cadre seem to have realized that his happy "glory" days are over. Reportedly, he has no enthusiasm for a future filled with the giant pandemic and economic disasters he's created.

I'm not holding my breath either, but he's trapped in a corner desperately looking for a way out. If a way to cut and run to safety presented it just might be more appealing than risking his future on the election. If he won he'd have to serve another term in an awful job that was never what he thought it was going to be, and it's looking as if health problems might be real.

While if he got home free, he could have his own TV show again, every show a rally of loyalists.

mucifer

(23,565 posts)
2. Once again 538 said trump could win with the effed up electoral college
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 08:47 AM
Jun 2020

They were right about it last time.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
45. Let's not forget that the current Attorney General of the United States is a career criminal. (eom)
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 11:24 AM
Jun 2020

safeinOhio

(32,719 posts)
5. Time to double down and
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 08:49 AM
Jun 2020

make every photo and story about how weak, old and stupid he is go viral.

Lots of people are laughing at him and some of them are very fine and good people.

True Blue American

(17,988 posts)
6. This attitude
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 08:50 AM
Jun 2020

Seems to be spreading as he goes against everything that will help him get re-elected.

Barr is now being investigated by the House, whistle blowers are coming out all over. You have John Bolton’s book, his niece writing an expose of family misdeeds. His Ill health getting worse by the day.

Alpeduez21

(1,755 posts)
11. The only way to get him out
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 08:55 AM
Jun 2020

Is vote him out. Vote. Vote. Vote. Pipe dreams are a waste of time. He still can win in November. Remember that and remember how you felt Nov 9 2016 after realizing dumb ass Jill Stein voters and ‘protest ‘ nonvoters helped repukes win, control the Senate, and pack the the courts.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
20. I haven't been able to watch a
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 09:02 AM
Jun 2020

Susan Sarandon movie since. If she come on tv, I change channels or leave.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
43. Same here. The ultimate sin is she destroyed Rocky Horror for me.
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 10:40 AM
Jun 2020


(Aside from the OTHER ultimate sin of helping to coordinate the "protest" votes that gave us the turd. Without that Putin would not have been successful.)

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
14. Hard to believe that . . ..
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 08:57 AM
Jun 2020

I've noticed that these concerns coming from WH and advisers never mention names.

honest.abe

(8,685 posts)
17. Would not surprise me one bit but how would that work regarding the election?
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 09:01 AM
Jun 2020

Does Pence or whoever they select simply become the nominee? What about getting on each state ballots? Isnt it too late to apply?

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
22. So he'll do something to paralyze the nation and disrupt the election
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 09:03 AM
Jun 2020

Like declare war on Iran. In September.

Who knows? He's getting his marching orders from Putin and the oligarchs. The best interest of America is not his concern. But boy do the right wingers love themselves a war. How can you even consider voting against an incumbent President during war times? you can already hear them say it.

I bet Bolton would get real chummy with Trump and take it all back.

safeinOhio

(32,719 posts)
24. I think if he started a was just before the elections,
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 09:08 AM
Jun 2020

he wouldn't have enough troops for that war and be able to maintain peace on the streets of this country.

At least he'd find some use for the bunker.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
25. But the GOP would rally around him and the MAGATs would take to the streets
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 09:12 AM
Jun 2020

Nothing energizes a fascist more than a war that liberals are universally opposed to.

There'd be an uproar, to be sure. But faux patriotism is what's being preached from the pulpit....and the news media. Let's not forget how the mainstream media lapped up the Iraq War in spite of all the dire warnings from Democrats.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
26. I posited this theory awhile back
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 09:13 AM
Jun 2020

My unfortunate history with a person with narcissistic personality disorder gave me the hunch that if it looks like a CERTAIN defeat that trump would find a reason, an excuse, to quit.

“It’s a rigged system
My health
I need to spend more time with Baron
I need to focus on my business empire”

Or more likely

“I’ve already done everything to make America great, mission accomplished “

But I could see him abandon ship in October and just say peace out.

whopis01

(3,523 posts)
41. I agree 100%
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 10:31 AM
Jun 2020

As I was reading your post I was going to jump in and add something - but you already said it at the end.

He will declare victory and walk away before he loses.

It is exactly what he has done with his businesses.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,791 posts)
27. If that were to happen, State of New York would....
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 09:13 AM
Jun 2020

Pounce on Trump as soon as Pence pardoned him. Presidential pardons do not protect from state crimes. Tump has committed state crimes aplenty.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
28. In case you need visuals
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 09:24 AM
Jun 2020

Wandering away is his thing.


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Savage -- Morning Joe put together a montage of Trump wandering away from public events when wasn't supposed to, set to the Allman Brothers' "Ramblin' Man"


(I prefer the long version of when he can’t find the limo, but I can’t find it)

LiberalArkie

(15,728 posts)
29. He might take a trip before election and have his personal security hijack AF-1 to Moscow
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 09:38 AM
Jun 2020

to give a gift to his bestest buddy Putin.

wiggs

(7,817 posts)
31. Trump may very well say the GOP didn't support and appreciate him enough, that Trump would have won,
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 10:07 AM
Jun 2020

but he's going to split off from the GOP and create his own media empire combining grift, adulation, and fundraising with social media while lobbying for Russia/SA/Israel and living out Putin's promise that he would be one of the richest men in the world. He likely helped direct trillions of dollars to people who promised him a taste...time to collect. Getting away with corruption and grift and cheating has always counted as a win in Trump world.

His whole life is revisionist...I can see him saying that an electoral win was guaranteed but he just didn't need it anymore.

njhoneybadger

(3,910 posts)
34. Everybody I know who voted for tRump in 2016 will vote for him again.
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 10:12 AM
Jun 2020

Voter suppression in all the swing states will even things out. Throw in all the dirty tricks the Rethugs will use and we could lose again. I guess I don't believe what a "tRump adviser" says.

ProfessorGAC

(65,168 posts)
47. Pence Would Get Slaughtered
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 01:19 PM
Jun 2020

The cult, as a whole, cares not a whit about Pence.
The subcult of end timers & dominionists might be happy, but they're a minor subset of the "following".

ProfessorGAC

(65,168 posts)
49. Probably Only Option
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 03:35 PM
Jun 2020

But, this thing is not a guaranteed wipe out is because of the cult.
So, should PINO hide from a probable loss, it will get worse as cultists take their ball & go home to pout.

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