3 year old.

They were proud.

Had Trump dropped trouser and made #2 they would have clapped and cheered that as well.

They're not insulted. They're charmed.

Sadly.

ask any stand up comic. he thought he was being funny and clever.

like it has been. Just when I think he's down to his hardest hard core level, he gets to a new one. I guess there's got to be a level at which his folk are just too demoralized to move. They'll drink more, do more drugs, and become totally apathetic. I don't know how they'll perform well at their jobs and be at least minimally productive citizens.

We're getting near to the bottom for these folk.

I do not think they will have found it by the end of October. There is no low to which they will not stoop

where sufficient numbers of his most ardent supporters can no longer fool themselves. They will then be openly contemptuous toward the remaining holdouts, who will reevaluate their support when they see it becoming unpopular even in their own circles. At that point it is game over for carnival barker rump; I believe that point will be reached imminently.

who else feels like them.

Do we think doofus#2 will hear about #1's feelings from (f)ucker carlson?

If enough of them have had enough of his shit and start expressing their opinion, it can influence others - the tipping point I mentioned earlier.

People who are easily manipulated into believing one thing are just as easily manipulated into believing the exact opposite when that 'tipping point' is reached.

Even the die-hard Trumpsters are finally catching on to the fact that their "pResident" is not the savvy businessman, good Christian patriot they thought they'd voted for. And they are now out of work, out of money, and living in fear of a pandemic that could prove fatal to them or their loved ones.

As you said down-thread, they get their 'news' from each other, not the MSM. So all it takes is a few people questioning their support of the idiot before others start chiming-in with their own doubts and dissatisfaction.

I prowl some conservative websites and they are worse than ever. They are so heavily invested in him they will not quit him, for the most part. I'm talking about the hard core ones, say 30-35%ers. Not enough to get him elected again, but they would rather jump off a cliff with him rather than admit they were wrong.

They seriously think Biden has full blown dementia and doesn't even know where he is. They won't listen to him speak, so they do not know better. It's surreal to think all my life I've been living in a country where that many people are so incredibly stupid.

... are not necessarily representative of the thinking of all party members.

That holds true for Democratic websites as well. DUers tend to be political junkies - and that is certainly not true of all Democrats.

The truth is that Trump's "base" has been eroding since he took office. He lost supporters due to kids in cages. He lost some due to his immigration policies. He lost some due to the obvious lies. He lost some due to breaking with our allies - the list goes on.

We had all hoped that one single statement or action would be the tipping point that would trigger a mass exodus from the "base". That didn't happen, but the slow trickle of fed-up Trump-humpers has been real and ongoing.

I personally know about a dozen Trumpsters who have abandoned him in disgust - each set off by different things he's said or done that were their personal breaking point.

It is overly simplistic to say that everyone who voted for Trump still supports him, and will vote to re-elect him. Many of them won't - and the number of "won'ts" is growing.

The Tulsa rally was a demonstration thereof. Had that rally been held even a few months ago, his "base" would have shown up in the tens of thousands, willing to risk their own health in order to stand by their guy.

But after his complete failure to address the Covid-19 situation, and the fact that he's pouring gasoline on the BLM fires, there are a lot of former adorers who are seeing him for what he is - an incompetent buffoon who has cost them their jobs, their financial security, and the deaths of loved ones.

The popular meme today has been that his "base supporters" went to the rally because they wanted 'red meat' - i.e. more race baiting, more dog whistles, more threats towards those who oppose him, etc.

What they really wanted to hear was that Dear Leader has a solution to the problems they're now facing - how do I survive if my business goes under? When can I go back to my job? What will happen to my kids' education if reopening schools is still too dangerous in the fall?

What they got instead was Trump's same old bullshit about how wonderful HE is, with no regard whatsoever to what THEY are dealing with on a daily basis. Declaring that protestors are "thugs" doesn't put food on the table, it doesn't pay next month's rent, and it doesn't address the real concerns of those who are scared shitless about their future.

Trump's falling poll numbers are not the result of his former supporters being vaguely dissatisfied with his "pResidency". They are a sign that his support is dwindling among that "base" many once believed was immovable.

A bunch of brainless yahoos posting on conservative websites is to be expected - just as it is expected that some people will never accept that the earth isn't flat.

So please don't try and put words in my mouth. I actually said there are not enough of them to get him reelected. It's also over simplistic to dream of some magical event, or turning point that will make all or most of his supporters abandon him.

Basically I'm saying there is some percentage of his fans that would jump off a cliff with him, and I think they will.

The end of Trump politically on November 3rd will be because he has lost the fence sitters and the people who voted for him because they hated Hillary and he will also lose most of the independents. Some of his base will still be there, though. They are mentally ill people. Most of them think the Covid-19 situation doesn't even exist.

Actually, we agree on more than we disagree on.

... that you thought any such thing.

But too many people are writing-off former Trump-humpers as an immovable block of voters who will never change their minds - or their votes - which simply isn't true.

While many of us hoped for a 'magical event' that would turn the tide, the truth is that it's been a series of non-magical events that have slowly-but-surely eroded the "base" Trump started out with in 2016 - and what's left of that "base" isn't nearly enough to re-elect him.

I for one am more than happy to welcome those former Trumpsters into our fold. We can go back to hating each others' political attitudes after we rid ourselves of the Dotard together.

I honestly look forward to the day that Democrats and Republicans can go back to fighting each other on the things that matter - like the right to choose, LGBT rights - instead of arguing about who draws bigger crowds at rallies.

And yes, of course, we agree on far more than we disagree on.

Keep writing like you always have. I enjoy your posts, and so does my wife.

as long as he gives them some other people to blame and screws over people they don't like

If they did, they wouldn't be there in the first place.

They were bored because they wanted red meat and all they got was watery pablum.

They like Trump because he hates and hurts the people they hate and want to hurt. His inane ego-coddling isn't servicing that base desire, so they remain unmoved. But the minute he strikes out again at the people they hate, they are 100% re-engaged.

She's a hard core Trumper and was just delighted to see him do this again.
All the liberals who tried to say it was a failure failed themselves.

instead of being whined at by a weak old bully who is losing his edge and trying to deny it.

He didn't insult their intelligence, they don't have any. He wasted their time.

They didn't turn on Sen McCarthy because the country suddenly grew a conscience but because he became tedious and boring.

Those of us who tortured our parents with "a hundred bottles of beer" from the back seat in a long drive stopped at 80.

This crowd just realized that he finished the first round of a hundred and was starting on the second.

Policy is generally boring so politics is largely boring. Obama's gift was that he could make policy interesting even fun.

To his admirers he was cute, funny and whimsical in the beginning.

Now he is tedious in his conspiracy theories, embarrassing in his personal defences on how to walk and take a drink, and desperately flailing trying to find the common fear of the room.

They just woke up and realized it's not fun anymore, someone is lying dead before them in a grotesque scene and Trump standing there with a shit eating grin and a smoking gun.

Trump just committed the ultimate political sin; he is boring.

You have ascended to my top heroes........Molly Ivans, Hunter Thompson, The Ferret, and now you.

I have been fascinated/obsessed these past few years on something that gravely upsets me, much more than Trump.

Everyday, all we hear 24/7 is Trump this, Trump that........ad nauseam......

I feel the key to this whole mess is the RepubliCon Majority in the Senate. They are merely using Trump as a diversion to all the MASSIVE crap they are pulling off in the shadows. Trump keeps the massive media focused on him, which is exactly the RepubliCONs strategy. (A prime example is all the RepubliCONs they are stuffing in all the appellate court positions. They have been chipping away at that for decades, but now are on a full roll-out crusade......)

This current RepubliCON CABAL is not a bit different than what Cheney/Rumsfeld/ et al pulled in the "W"s admin, that Cheney/Rumsfeld/et al did in the HW administration, or any different from what Sr.Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/et al did in the Reagan Administration.

It helps the RepubliCONs massively that the main stream media in America is owned by 80+% Republicans. If you watch carefully and with a critical eye, even CNN and MSNBC are "tainted"......

If a miracle happens, and Trump loses and Biden wins, I fully expect them to overturn the election just as they did in 2000.
But say, by another miracle that Biden is elected......without turning over the Senate to Dems control, the RepubliCON controlled Senate will just continue on their merry way and obstruct, obstruct, obstruct.....

They are one millimeter away from a coup, turning our nation into a Corporate Fascist Tyranny..

The RepubliCON senate is the key to everything. Period. Without them, Trump would be gone in a second. Period

I feel we should be concentrating at least half of our efforts on the Repub's Senate seats. I also believe that Putin, China, Saudis, etc
are doing everything they can to not only affect the outcome of the Presidential Election, but also interfering to help the Repubs at the Senate election level, maybe even the governor election level.

Just my thoughts and feelings.

Keep up the good work, and a HUMONGOUS THANK YOU, NANCE, The DNC has proven themselves to be utterly worthless and we look TO YOU and a few others for some sane thinking......

(I have been a devoted follower of your's since the old NANCRANTS days.....LOL)

...I'd like to think so, but I just can't imagine they have enough sense to wipe their own asses.

was any water in the cup, or he just faked like there was???????