and until that happens wear a fucking mask and social distance, there are alot of us who are paying attention, those who are not keep your distance and give up your ER visit to those who will need it.

Or wear a cowbell then we can hear you coming or wear that red cap then we can avoid you.

it's far from sure any vaccine is going to cause long lasting immunity.

span where anti-bodies protect against reinfection.

Vaccine protocol may include boosters as maintenance in 2-3 month intervals - it may just be something we schedule like we do for dental visits and mammograms

The key right now is get a reliable vaccine, even if the immunity is short-lived.

Antibodies significantly diminish after 2-3 months. BUT - the presence of antibodies DOES NOT mean immunity.

Nature has waiting for us.

why this isn't just the flu.

... American flu (since it started in KS)

In fact he said it could make matters worse on 60 Minutes.

saw that Fauci interview and ran with it. Why did he say that?

... the vaccine issue.

but that is not an excuse for disinformation.

suspected that face coverings would work, telling the public to wear almost any type of face covering would have reduced infections, thereby reducing hospital visits, thereby reducing the risk and need for several masks per day by frontline hospital staff.

And now says that advice was for the reason many of us suspected at the time: there were not facemasks for health care workers and they didn't want private individuals taking keeping them away from the health care workers.

That one lie is likely responsible for nearly as many deaths as Trump's lies. It was more dangerous because Fauci said it - so people like us who trust science believed it (or at least some of us did - I never did).

And now, his statement is being used by those who never believed in science in the first place to reinforce their beliefs that there is no science behind mask wearing. After all, Fauci (and others) said they were worthless - and now they say they are necessary - so it must all be political. I could defend a change in what we know, but Fauci's statements were not based on what we then knew. They were a practical lie to protect health care workers, and lies come back to bite you.

wearing dramatically reduces transmission rates. If Fauci wanted to protect hospital workers, telling Americans to wear any mask available but N95 masks that hospital personnel need would have dropped hospitalizations significantly.

I really don't see why democrats on the panel didn't challenge his statement.

The closest thing in modern times would be the 1918 Flu Pandemic....but this is worse because so many can have the virus and be asymptomatic. Add to this the total incompetence of Dufus Donnie.

The only plus would be Trump’s approval tanking almost daily.....hopefully to the extent flipping the Senate to the Democrats.

If we get total control we need to do whatever it takes to undo the damage done, including all the totally unqualified Judges McConnell jammed through.

And we need to look hard at the Electoral College, and even the Senate.....and how they favor Republicans. Hard to change much with the Senate but we could add two more States, the District Of Columbia and Puerto Rico.

If you got it, you got sick with a limited range of symptoms. You were infectious once you had symptoms - or, at most - 24 hours ahead of noticeable symptoms.

None of this asymptomatic but highly infectious crap. And not the range of symptoms from nothing to more than 2 months; GI, vascular, respiratory.

I don't think our ability to test asymptomatic people in 1918 and determine that yes, they do have the virus and could transmit it, is the same as it is today. I tried to search that a little but couldn't really find anything. Maybe someone here knows the answer to that.

We suspected there was something that was not a bacterial infection but had no clue what it could be.


The 1918 virus was horrible in that it killed those in their prime of life.