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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 10:08 AM Jun 2020

Trump doesn't follow coronavirus guidelines/laws because "he's not a civilian," White House says

Is this true? The president isn't considered a "civilian"?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/24/trump-will-not-follow-new-jersey-coronavirus-quarantine-order.html

Trump will not follow New Jersey coronavirus quarantine order, ‘he’s not a civilian,’ White House says

The White House said Wednesday that President Donald Trump will not change his plan to travel to New Jersey this weekend despite a new order by the governor requiring visitors who have been in states with high numbers of coronavirus cases to quarantine for 14 days.

“The president of the United States is not a civilian,” said White House spokesman Judd Deere, when asked about Trump’s compliance with the quarantine order given his travel Tuesday to Arizona, which has seen a rise in the rate of its Covid-19 cases.

“Anyone who is in close proximity to him, including staff, guests, and press are tested for COVID-19 and confirmed to be negative,” Deere said in a statement.

“With regard to Arizona, the White House followed it’s COVID mitigation plan to ensure the President did not come into contact with anyone who was symptomatic or had not been tested,” the spokesman added.

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Trump doesn't follow coronavirus guidelines/laws because "he's not a civilian," White House says (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Jun 2020 OP
I actually agree... zaj Jun 2020 #1
Lock him up! malaise Jun 2020 #2
He is indeed a civilian. RobertDevereaux Jun 2020 #3
Indeed. He MUST be a civilian. Laelth Jun 2020 #17
"Anyone who is in close proximity to him, including staff, guests, and press are tested sop Jun 2020 #4
And I'm certain that the Virus will make an exception for HIM . . . . . . no_hypocrisy Jun 2020 #5
The virus doesn't give a shit what Trump and the thousands Flaleftist Jun 2020 #6
Thyphoid Trump.....nt global1 Jun 2020 #7
He is definitely not a civilian. Elwood P Dowd Jun 2020 #8
True. He's a villainous incivilian! RobertDevereaux Jun 2020 #10
Let him declare himself a War Criminal President, that worked out so well for Mussolini Baclava Jun 2020 #9
He's never even had a civil thought or idea. C_U_L8R Jun 2020 #11
He's Putin's PUPPET. Nothing more, nothing less. secondwind Jun 2020 #12
If not a civilian, then he needs to follow the Uniform Code of Military Justice. IggleDuer Jun 2020 #13
And military justice can follow. rickford66 Jun 2020 #23
Let's do it! IggleDuer Jun 2020 #32
This is a very dangerous and stupid argument that Trump is making. Laelth Jun 2020 #14
he thinks the virus reports to him milestogo Jun 2020 #16
Thank you! RobertDevereaux Jun 2020 #31
As Myron Cohen might have said: "Well! If you're gonna throw common sense at us----" nt Atticus Jun 2020 #33
He deserves to catch it, spread it to his whole family, milestogo Jun 2020 #15
Trump is uncivil, uncivilized, amoral and emotional stunted. Thomas Hurt Jun 2020 #18
He's a sick villain Blue Owl Jun 2020 #19
He thinks he's a king and therefore above the law and Lese-majeste applies. Golden Raisin Jun 2020 #20
Well if he's not a civilian put a mask on! marlakay Jun 2020 #21
"Civilian" is the wrong word, but it sounds better than "white entitled above the law superspreader" unblock Jun 2020 #22
Nope North Shore Chicago Jun 2020 #24
But he's human (supposedly) Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2020 #25
Trump doesn't follow rules because he's an asshole... Wounded Bear Jun 2020 #26
Because he's not human. spanone Jun 2020 #27
He is actually 24,000,000 cockroaches in a human shaped skinbag SoonerPride Jun 2020 #28
So all of his entourage aren't civilians either? Nevilledog Jun 2020 #29
I'm a government worker. intheflow Jun 2020 #30
 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
1. I actually agree...
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 10:11 AM
Jun 2020

He should follow all best practices as much as feasible. 14-day quarantine for the President isn't reasonable. He is not a civilian and has other obligations. He shouldn't be going there, but he's also not obligated to follow those guidelines (or laws).

sop

(10,189 posts)
4. "Anyone who is in close proximity to him, including staff, guests, and press are tested
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 10:14 AM
Jun 2020

for COVID-19 and confirmed to be negative." What? I though Trump said testing only increased the numbers.

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
6. The virus doesn't give a shit what Trump and the thousands
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 10:15 AM
Jun 2020

of people who will go with him to New Jersey are. Irresponsible fucks.

IggleDuer

(964 posts)
13. If not a civilian, then he needs to follow the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 10:27 AM
Jun 2020

Military members are subject to civilian laws, too.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
14. This is a very dangerous and stupid argument that Trump is making.
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 10:29 AM
Jun 2020

The President of the United States MUST be a civilian. It has long been a bedrock principle of our republic that our military is under civilian control. That’s how we avoid a military dictatorship. The President, as Commander in Chief, must always be a civilian. He may have served in the military, previously, but he must be considered (and act like) a civilian once elected President. That’s why you never saw Eisenhower, or Kennedy, or Carter in their military uniforms after they were elected.

The President of the United States is the DEFINITION of a civilian in this country. It is dangerous and stupid to argue otherwise.

-Laelth

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
15. He deserves to catch it, spread it to his whole family,
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 10:30 AM
Jun 2020

get very sick, and spend his last miserable days alone on a ventilator.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
18. Trump is uncivil, uncivilized, amoral and emotional stunted.
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 10:39 AM
Jun 2020

But the office he holds is civilian. Trump and his servile lackeys think he is King, the same as the state, and above the law.

marlakay

(11,468 posts)
21. Well if he's not a civilian put a mask on!
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 10:46 AM
Jun 2020

My daughter told me yesterday you can’t go on base without one where she lives in Texas. And all stores anywhere on base. Even the military knows he’s full of shit.

Nevilledog

(51,107 posts)
29. So all of his entourage aren't civilians either?
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 11:33 AM
Jun 2020

And is this the same testing and best practices that within the last week resulted in at least 8 positives plus a "few dozens" of secret service having to quarantine?

intheflow

(28,476 posts)
30. I'm a government worker.
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 01:14 PM
Jun 2020

I am required to wear a mask at my workplace even though we're not reopened to the public yet So this is exceptionally bull-shitty. "Civilians" can go maskless if they want, civil servants need to be masked for public safety. Also, he may be Commander in Chief, but the President is not a member of the military. Especially if he opted out of the military due to bone spurs!!

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