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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsConcerning the current structure and integrity of our society amid the challenges we face
This is an excerpt from the introduction to Peter Joseph's book, The New Human Rights Movement: Reinventing the Economy to End Oppression.
If we can come to a mutual understanding of the terms and conditions of the underlying institutions in regards to our economics and politics, then we may be able to start on the road to reaching a pragmatic consensus on the change required. Without that, how can we break out of the cloud of confusion, propaganda and favoritism foisted on us both by and primarily for the benefit of vested interests?
The future is upon us, so to speak. This is not about just another economic cycle. The future we face will include an accelerating proliferation of new technologies and transformations that will require us to both understand them and to be able to adapt and respond in kind. If we fail to do so, then that may allow for worse outcomes for the general population. Without the acquisition of knowledge and the skills it provides, (in contrast to absorbing mere information alone) we may not be able to weather the storms to come.
Joseph draws a cogent picture and offers some ideas that may help us initiate the necessary, nay, vital, conversations publicly and begin an intelligent, creative and cohesive movement to address what is vital to our health, safety, freedom and overall survival as we enter a crucial and tumultuous phase. That journey of a thousand miles does begin with the first step. We begin by defining some of our fundamental terms as a basis for the ineluctable transition we will share.
In terms of structuralism, if we had to locate the most influential man-made force affecting the human condition, there is no doubt that a societys social system would be most prominent. A social system is defined as the means by which a society organizes itself to facilitate survival, prosperity, and, ideally, peaceful coexistence. From networking the behavior of individuals and institutions, to characteristics such as security, medical access, resource management, political processes, and transport infrastructure, the defining features of a social system can vary.
Overall, a social system serves to maintain and improve public health (chapter four). Public health is an umbrella idea that embraces many factors and outcomes. As a broad measure, the quality of overall public health in a society ultimately reflects the quality of its social system. If it happens to be that a system is allowing or even facilitating unnecessary disease epidemics, pollution, starvation, violence, crime, deprivation, social oppression, bigotry, and other harmful features, then the integrity of that social system is brought into question.
However, any challenge to the integrity of the system is really a challenge to the integrity of its core foundation, and that core foundation is economic. How a society organizes its resources, labor, production, and distribution is by far the most defining and influential feature of culture. This is why when people discuss social systems in general they usually refer to them by their economic modes.
[emphasis is mine]
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Laelth
(32,017 posts)Instead, one party will take complete control of the government, and that partys perception will dominate. Our nations ills will be addressed on the basis of what one group perceives to be the cause(s) of our misery. The other side will disagree, but they will be powerless to prevent the dominant group from acting on its beliefs.
-Laelth
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)Is that a prediction or presumption?
I understand and even agree with your premise in a sense. However, I can't see it as pragmatic in that it assumes defeat prior to the engagement and might even encourage apathy and retreat.
Emergence allows for small steps and actions to literally gain a rapid momentum and blossom into full-scale results over time, both constructive and destructive. If we are committed to being defeatist from the get-go, it seems to me that we are thereby, by default, capitulating to the dominant group which the only serves to make the prediction true and facilitate their agenda. In the worst case scenario, we don't have to make our defeat easy.
We can feel empowered and muster up the courage to engage in this from an "as if" or "what if" perspective and then make adjustments as needed. It is a matter of context, process and perspective based on current events.
A pessimist complains about the wind. An optimist waits for it to change. A realist adjust the sails.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)Our perceptions of the causes of our misery will dominate, and we will act on those beliefs to make what we think will be a better world.
Its also a description. If the Republicans win, heaven forbid, they will do the same, but, mainly, my comment was a critique of a naive premise. The author says, in essence, If we could all agree, then we could fix things. True, but we dont all agree. We never have, and we never will, so your entire book is based upon a premise that is absurd. I have no desire to read any more of what this scholar has to say. He lost me with his first sentence.
-Laelth
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)I can respect your bias there and appreciate your way of framing it. However, a response to a book based on a short excerpt is not compelling, nor does it give much scope or understanding to the discussion.
I would respond with the fact that we already do have many things we are in accord with and find agreement in and that's called culture and society as we know it. We can come to more reaching agreements by way of reason, understanding and debate. I think of Democracy itself as a context that opens a wide umbrella under which a diverse range of views can be presented and that ideology is a form of meta-consensus in its own right.
It is hard to imagine having a culture or society, as well as any form of civilization, that could thrive in perpetual chaos, (which would negate the persistence of a cohesive culture/society/civilization). A general consensus view of basic human functions and interactions is evident and fundamental to those structures. There are many examples of the predominance of those agreements being honored without much in the way of debate or dissent. Some are treated as matter of fact. That's a good place to look.
I have to question the broad brush of your implication that agreement and consent would require a Universal accord in order to be applicable, functional and useful. The disagreements provide a vital aspect of a dynamic system that can thrive even with its most glaring contrasts, or maybe even because of them. Taking "if we all could agree, then we can fix things." too literally might be missing the point in this context, as well.
Perhaps it is a matter of degree rather than black and white thinking? We can define the "we" and even come into agreement in emergent subsets that become more pervasive and influential, as have many ideas and social norms historically.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)As Kuhn demonstrates in The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, theres always a dominant position and at least one minority position on any question that is of import to humanity. The dominant position gets to effect public policy in a way that comports with its beliefs. In the United States, that will soon be the position of the Democratic Party unless I am very mistaken.
-Laelth
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)...children, elderly, and the vulnerable.