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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,170 posts)
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 02:34 PM Jun 2020

Barista Gets $31K in Tips After Refusing to Serve Woman Not Wearing Mask

A barista at Starbucks earned himself quite the pay day for simply enforcing the store's face mask policy.

Lenin Gutierrez, a barista at a Starbucks in San Diego was publicly admonished by a woman named Amber Lynn Gilles in a Facebook post on Monday, after Gutierrez refused to serve her for not wearing a mask inside of the coffee shop.

Giles shared a photograph of Gutierrez wearing his Starbucks apron and a face mask with the caption: "Meet lenen [sic] from Starbucks who refused to serve me cause I'm not wearing a mask. Next time I will wait for cops and bring a medical exemption."

Since the post has gone viral, Giles' attempt to spark outrage against Gutierrez backfired. While there were some who agreed with Giles, hundreds of the more than 133,000 people who have commented on the post largely took Gutierrez's side, including a man named Matt Cowan who organized a GoFundMe on Gutierrez's behalf.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/barista-gets-31k-in-tips-after-refusing-to-serve-woman-not-wearing-mask/ar-BB160xL0?li=BBnbfcN&ocid=DELLDHP

Another Karen.

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Barista Gets $31K in Tips After Refusing to Serve Woman Not Wearing Mask (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2020 OP
There needs to be public shaming and shunning going on BusyBeingBest Jun 2020 #1
This idiot lady probably has one of those fake exemption cards Gothmog Jun 2020 #2
I'd love to know what medical condition precludes someone from wearing a mask. cwydro Jun 2020 #3
Insanity? flor-de-jasmim Jun 2020 #4
You might have something there. cwydro Jun 2020 #5
If they're so frail they can't wear a mask wryter2000 Jun 2020 #7
Good point. cwydro Jun 2020 #8
Of course, it's bullshit, but I think we can call them on it wryter2000 Jun 2020 #10
I've listed a number here before. Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #14
Thank you. I appreciate that list. cwydro Jun 2020 #16
Aside from people with autism - Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #21
I agree. cwydro Jun 2020 #22
Headless Monks Qualify CloudWatcher Jun 2020 #18
People who have nothing better to do than claim false privilege are so pathetic renate Jun 2020 #9
I love it when brainwashed shite Backfires so Spectacularly! Cha Jun 2020 #6
here's more... tenderfoot Jun 2020 #11
It took me a couple of jumps to get to her fb page MagickMuffin Jun 2020 #19
that was a most interesting read rurallib Jun 2020 #20
At a local cafeteria they have blue decal on the floor every 6 feet doc03 Jun 2020 #12
She's too young to be a karen. She's just a typical asshole. Ilsa Jun 2020 #13
really a fantastic idea RussBLib Jun 2020 #15
Those Face Mask "ADA Exemption" Cards Are Dangerous Nonsense Gothmog Jun 2020 #17
Update on GoFundMe: $100,000 donated. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 2020 #23
$101,980. Alex4Martinez Jul 2020 #24

BusyBeingBest

(8,059 posts)
1. There needs to be public shaming and shunning going on
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 02:39 PM
Jun 2020

in businesses where customers refuse to wear masks. If I had to wait on customers again, I would walk away when approached by someone who wanted to come up to me and breathe virus all over me. Fuck 'em.

Gothmog

(145,496 posts)
2. This idiot lady probably has one of those fake exemption cards
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 03:00 PM
Jun 2020

This lady is a typical trump supporter, I.e., an idiot. Only idiots support trump


 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
3. I'd love to know what medical condition precludes someone from wearing a mask.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 03:04 PM
Jun 2020

I keep hearing there are such conditions, but no one has been able to say what they are.

wryter2000

(46,077 posts)
7. If they're so frail they can't wear a mask
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 03:43 PM
Jun 2020

They definitely should not be out in public where they might contract the virus.

wryter2000

(46,077 posts)
10. Of course, it's bullshit, but I think we can call them on it
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 03:50 PM
Jun 2020

I have a doctor friend who got an e-mail from a patient that she wanted him to write a letter that she couldn't stand in line at Disneyland because of her asthma. He wrote back, "If your asthma is bothering you, you'd better cancel Disneyland and come to see me." She switched doctors.

Ms. Toad

(34,086 posts)
14. I've listed a number here before.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 04:51 PM
Jun 2020

Age (2 and under)
Autism
Emphysema
COPD
Asthma
Other lung diseases
Heart disease (and other diseases that makes your body use the oxygen it takes in inefficiently)

Essentially any (real) condition that makes the sensation of a mask on your face unbearable, any condition that either makes it difficult for you to breathe - or difficult for you to use the oxygen your body does take in when you breathe.

In the perhaps less critical area - people with muscular coordination (CP for example) for whom putting on and taking off a mask to eat or drink might be unhealthy (e.g. causing dehydration because the difficulty of removing and putting on mask discourages taking in adequate nutrition or hydration)




 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
16. Thank you. I appreciate that list.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 05:26 PM
Jun 2020

I had awful asthma as a child, but with meds for years, I outgrew it. It returns occasionally in cold weather.

It seems those folks are best to stay at home with conditions so serious they can't wear a mask.

I wear one when I go out, but I'm never in a store longer than 20 minutes. I don't like the mask, but I'm quite sure I'd like a ventilator even less.

Ms. Toad

(34,086 posts)
21. Aside from people with autism -
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 05:58 PM
Jun 2020

I have friends with young children with autism - in places where masks are mandated - who are really struggling. Even if they have a medical exemption, they are subject to challenge every place they go. The fact that there are idiots like this woman pretending to have a medical exemption makes it harder because the current assumption is that if you aren't wearing a mask it is a political statement (rather than an assumption that you have a medical basis for not wearing one). They are working with variations on masks (fabric, design) that can be tolerated for brief periods that are easy to pull up when needed.

I agree with you that most of the people who should not be wearing masks for medical reasons should probably just be staying home.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
22. I agree.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 06:14 PM
Jun 2020

I've worked with folks with autism, and I hadn't thought about that.

I do appreciate the list. And yes...all these idiot pretending to have "medical reasons" are causing problems for those who do. What a country.

CloudWatcher

(1,851 posts)
18. Headless Monks Qualify
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 05:37 PM
Jun 2020

Pretty sure members of the Headless Monks don't have to wear masks .. since they don't exactly have faces.

Otherwise ... yeah.

https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Order_of_the_Headless

renate

(13,776 posts)
9. People who have nothing better to do than claim false privilege are so pathetic
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 03:48 PM
Jun 2020

Why cling so passionately and angrily to selfishness when all you need to do to help your fellow citizens is wear a damn mask for a few damn minutes?

MagickMuffin

(15,951 posts)
19. It took me a couple of jumps to get to her fb page
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 05:40 PM
Jun 2020

But my my, people are trolling her hard for her racist ways. Pretty funny and tragic that she doubles down.

She is also supposed to teach yoga. Pity the fool who learns anything from her.

Here's a direct link if anyone feels like having some shaming fun

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=601056948&__tn__=%2CdC-R-R&eid=ARAKxDPJ47IG_mmv5XwjBT2gfQTZb2nEIm_1WW7FmhxZy3Pc7P6z4PhyhemTYiBUjVQ1hEfHrVUXq_EJ&hc_ref=ARRps2gyy0ijw4OkdP4yds-Wtmzw82DD5GDu_2yEDCimW2eEpNvBq6vC0IKG9NeI5dU&fref=nf



doc03

(35,363 posts)
12. At a local cafeteria they have blue decal on the floor every 6 feet
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 04:32 PM
Jun 2020

so you keep your distance from others. They have an employee watching to make sure you keep your distance also.
The employee told me today she asked a women to stay behind the blue decal last week and the women told her she
could shove that blue decal up her ass. That is what this moron in the Whitehouse has done to this country.

Ilsa

(61,697 posts)
13. She's too young to be a karen. She's just a typical asshole.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 04:36 PM
Jun 2020

Possibly has a personality disorder since she doesn't give a crap about anyone else.

RussBLib

(9,034 posts)
15. really a fantastic idea
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 04:54 PM
Jun 2020

not that new, of course, to set up a Go Fund Me for people in need, or even people that could use a boost. If you can be sure the scamming has been removed from the equation, there is a lot of money sloshing around out there, looking for some place to go.

Gothmog

(145,496 posts)
17. Those Face Mask "ADA Exemption" Cards Are Dangerous Nonsense
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 05:33 PM
Jun 2020

These cards are totally bogus




Every morning I get a text message from my disabled grandmother’s nursing home telling me how many residents have died “COVID related deaths” since the pandemic began. As of Friday morning? Eighteen. Every night, I dread the possibility of waking the next morning to find the number has ticked even higher. Nationwide, more than 33,000 nursing home residents have been killed by COVID-19. Despite the promise of the Americans With Disabilities Act of 1990, landmark civil rights legislation designed to guarantee the rights of disabled Americans, the United States has continually failed disabled people. Where were the ADA protections for those 33,000 nursing home residents? And our government isn’t even bothering to track, in any nationwide, systematic way, the number of disabled people dying in other institutional settings, like psychiatric facilities and group homes—where are their ADA protections?

Now nondisabled scammers want you to believe that the ADA “protects” them from having to wear a face mask in public. Don’t believe them.

An outfit calling itself the “Freedom to Breathe Agency” (both its Wix website and Facebook group have now been taken down) has been distributing a “Face Mask Exempt Card” designed to be presented to businesses. The card reads: “I am exempt from any ordinance requiring face mask usage in public. Wearing a face mask poses a mental and/or physical risk to me. Under the Americans with Disability Act (ADA), I am not required to disclose my condition to you.” The card also features the seal of the U.S. Department of Justice and the threat “If found in violation of the ADA you could face steep penalties. Organizations and businesses can be fined up to $75,000 for your first violation and $150,000 for any subsequent violations.”

That might sound vaguely convincing if you aren’t familiar with the ADA. But it’s all nonsense—the Department of Justice has called the cards fraudulent. And it’s dangerous nonsense at that.

First, when we’re considering face masks, the ADA applies only to people who are actually disabled. It is absolutely true that there are people who cannot wear a face mask because they have a disability. And while there is no sort of master list of “ADA-approved” reasons for not wearing a mask, to give just a few examples, they may include people with COPD, asthma, cystic fibrosis, PTSD, and autism. These are the people the ADA is designed to protect—people who are actually disabled. The ADA does not apply to ableds lying about disability in order to spread a disease that disproportionately kills members of marginalized groups—e.g., the Black, Latinx, indigenous, poor, and, yes, disability communities.
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