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apples and oranges

(1,451 posts)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:25 PM Sep 2012

"I collect S.S. and never thought he was referring to me. Anybody with a grain of sense knows..."

Freepers defending Mitt:

"I collect S.S. and never thought he was referring to me. Anybody with a grain of sense knows who he was talking about."

"That’s right; everyone knows exactly the type of people he’s talking about. Leeches."

"Yeah, I know, you don’t want to alienate a potential voter. But I know he’s not talking about people down on their luck and need help, or those disabled and require help.

He’s talking about the people who could and should work but feel they’re entitled to using the system to stay perpetually on food stamps and handouts. They’re leeches."

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"I collect S.S. and never thought he was referring to me. Anybody with a grain of sense knows..." (Original Post) apples and oranges Sep 2012 OP
that's the thing ibegurpard Sep 2012 #1
A lot of them are Romney supporters Mz Pip Sep 2012 #5
I suspect he was using another dog whistle for "non-whites". dixiegrrrrl Sep 2012 #8
+1000 nt grasswire Sep 2012 #35
I think a few of them twigged to it tonight. aletier_v Sep 2012 #9
Those are the people making fraudulent votes! ahhh n/t flamingdem Sep 2012 #24
why don't they just say it? Lex Sep 2012 #2
"It's not fair!" Mopar151 Sep 2012 #7
please someone who isn't banned, please tell the freepers, that they are the 47%..... Fresh_Start Sep 2012 #3
Those idiots are too stupid to know that Romney was talking about THEM! catbyte Sep 2012 #4
Leeches like folks who hide money and avoid paying taxes? ncgrits Sep 2012 #6
Jesus wept. nolabear Sep 2012 #10
Mittens talked about 47%. If he wanted to talk about those on welfare Jennicut Sep 2012 #11
Worth noting, that's much less than under Reagan bhikkhu Sep 2012 #15
anyone with a grain of sense Third Doctor Sep 2012 #12
Free Republic doesn't include many grains of sense, then. tavalon Sep 2012 #22
"the type of people he's talking about" Union Scribe Sep 2012 #13
Somewhere in heaven Seamus is smiling......... dimbear Sep 2012 #14
So is President Obama...n/t monmouth Sep 2012 #18
Can we say cognitive dissonance SpartanDem Sep 2012 #16
You know... minorities. Marr Sep 2012 #17
You don't get to 47% without counting retirees. Tom Rinaldo Sep 2012 #19
They must have missed the "47%" part gollygee Sep 2012 #20
Wow, they are delusional tavalon Sep 2012 #21
Rim Job is in a wheelchair. Any bets he takes government money? Does he pay income tax? Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #23
Do they really believe that 47% of the population are "welfare leeches"? Lydia Leftcoast Sep 2012 #25
Yes they really believe that... Kalidurga Sep 2012 #31
Of course. The 47% figure includes SS beneficiaries, but that one individual was not mzmolly Sep 2012 #26
Typical Conservative response. liberalmuse Sep 2012 #27
Of course...he was obviously talking about the 47% of the U.S. that is not white BeyondGeography Sep 2012 #28
The racism kicks in when they hear this kind of talk LuckyTheDog Sep 2012 #29
They are idiots Marrah_G Sep 2012 #30
Wow! That's a lot... regnaD kciN Sep 2012 #32
Well, the propaganda Newest Reality Sep 2012 #33
No Stupids.. mitt was refering to the 47%.. Cha Sep 2012 #34
....and HANDICAPPED CHILDREN grasswire Sep 2012 #36

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
1. that's the thing
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:26 PM
Sep 2012

where the fuck are these leeches????
teapukes are constantly talking about them but I don't see them!

Mz Pip

(27,451 posts)
5. A lot of them are Romney supporters
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:31 PM
Sep 2012

It's kind of ironic that they don't get that they are being dissed

Mopar151

(9,989 posts)
7. "It's not fair!"
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:37 PM
Sep 2012

Judging me by the same standards as everybody else is wrong!

That guy gets disability for being blind. Why can't I get disability for not being able to see reality>? It's discrimination!

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
3. please someone who isn't banned, please tell the freepers, that they are the 47%.....
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:28 PM
Sep 2012

if they didn't pay any taxes last year...and being retired is no excuse.

ncgrits

(916 posts)
6. Leeches like folks who hide money and avoid paying taxes?
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:31 PM
Sep 2012

Those kind of leeches? Maybe if "smart" people supported the republican party, they might understand the meaning of the word "irony".

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
11. Mittens talked about 47%. If he wanted to talk about those on welfare
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:44 PM
Sep 2012

(TANF) he needed to say 1.7%. Stupid, stupid people who don't use facts. Leeching off society at 1.7%. So many people. All 4 million of them.

bhikkhu

(10,718 posts)
15. Worth noting, that's much less than under Reagan
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 12:11 AM
Sep 2012


A reminder for the baggers who grossly exaggerate how many people are on welfare, as we dig out of their recession.

Third Doctor

(1,574 posts)
12. anyone with a grain of sense
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:45 PM
Sep 2012

should know who he was talking about. The repubs hate Obama so much they are falling over themselves trying to spin this.

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
13. "the type of people he's talking about"
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:50 PM
Sep 2012

I can only assume they think Rmoney was thinking of the same people they do when they complain about government programs: minorities.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
20. They must have missed the "47%" part
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 08:30 AM
Sep 2012

He wasn't talking about me, as my family pays quite a bit in federal income tax, and I'm someone who will vote for Obama no matter what. He was talking about someone. Actually he was talking about a lot of people, and I know this is partly another race baiting dog whistle and all, but 47% of Americans aren't African American so he didn't mean that.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
31. Yes they really believe that...
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 10:21 PM
Sep 2012

So if you are a full time student whose only income is a Pell Grant and student loans then you are a leach even though you have to pay back the loan. And this is even though you are trying to get an education so you that you fall out of the group of people who pay no federal income taxes. Because if you don't ever get an education there is a good chance you may never in your lifetime pay much if anything for federal income taxes. Unfortunately all other taxes are regressive.

mzmolly

(50,996 posts)
26. Of course. The 47% figure includes SS beneficiaries, but that one individual was not
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 10:16 PM
Sep 2012

included in Mitt's statement. No siree.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
27. Typical Conservative response.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 10:17 PM
Sep 2012

It's all about them if it's good, and about someone else if it's bad. If they have to collect unemployment, it's because they've worked hard and earned it. If someone else has to, they refer to them as "lazy" among other slurs. Some people believe what they want to believe, and have created incredible filters to insulate their tiny world. Sometimes I wish I could do that. It's frustrating having to deal with people like this because no matter how many facts or how good of an argument you present, you'd get better leeway talking to a brick wall.

LuckyTheDog

(6,837 posts)
29. The racism kicks in when they hear this kind of talk
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 10:20 PM
Sep 2012

As I said in a DU post that got zero responses:

I had a Facebook exchange about the Mitt tapes with a relative who is a solid, holy-roller Republican. He seemed to assume Mitt was talking about the blacks and the Mexicans, not about people like him.

That kind of makes sense, in a twisted way. I have seen studies that show conservatives tend to greatly over-estimate the size of the black population and tend to assume almost all of them are on welfare. A lot of base GOP voters also assume incorrectly that virtually all undocumented workers get welfare checks.

So, given all that, I can see where Mitt's comments could actually help him -- in a "dog whistle" sort of way -- with the GOP base.

Will independents feel the same way? Only time will tell, but I am guessing they won't.

My post: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021372061

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
32. Wow! That's a lot...
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 10:49 PM
Sep 2012

Whoever dreamed that a full 47% of Americans are "people who could and should work but feel they’re entitled to using the system to stay perpetually on food stamps and handouts"...?



Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
33. Well, the propaganda
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 11:07 PM
Sep 2012

value of Bog Mittens is priceless in the sense that it keeps on perpetuating myths that they hope people will latch-onto and believe.

That seems to provide an impetus for condoning the ending of any helpful or compassionate means to uplift people in need, no matter how miniscule the remaining help is. It also serves to make people who are nearing dire need to feel bad about and avoid seeking help.

Molding an Ayn Rand sculpture of self-centered decay takes as many strikes of that hammer as they can get away with. None of it goes to waste, no matter how we may point out facts and deride the lunacy.

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