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CatWoman

(79,302 posts)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:46 PM Sep 2012

Thurston Howell Romney by David Brooks

In 1960, government transfers to individuals totaled $24 billion. By 2010, that total was 100 times as large. Even after adjusting for inflation, entitlement transfers to individuals have grown by more than 700 percent over the last 50 years. This spending surge, Eberstadt notes, has increased faster under Republican administrations than Democratic ones.

There are sensible conclusions to be drawn from these facts. You could say that the entitlement state is growing at an unsustainable rate and will bankrupt the country. You could also say that America is spending way too much on health care for the elderly and way too little on young families and investments in the future.

This comment suggests a few things. First, it suggests that he really doesn’t know much about the country he inhabits. Who are these freeloaders? Is it the Iraq war veteran who goes to the V.A.? Is it the student getting a loan to go to college? Is it the retiree on Social Security or Medicare?

It suggests that Romney doesn’t know much about the culture of America. Yes, the entitlement state has expanded, but America remains one of the hardest-working nations on earth. Americans work longer hours than just about anyone else. Americans believe in work more than almost any other people. Ninety-two percent say that hard work is the key to success, according to a 2009 Pew Research Survey.

It says that Romney doesn’t know much about the political culture. Americans haven’t become childlike worshipers of big government. On the contrary, trust in government has declined. The number of people who think government spending promotes social mobility has fallen.

The people who receive the disproportionate share of government spending are not big-government lovers. They are Republicans. They are senior citizens. They are white men with high school degrees. As Bill Galston of the Brookings Institution has noted, the people who have benefited from the entitlements explosion are middle-class workers, more so than the dependent poor.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/18/opinion/brooks-thurston-howell-romney.html?_r=1&smid=tw-share&_rmoc.semityn.www

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Thurston Howell Romney by David Brooks (Original Post) CatWoman Sep 2012 OP
that's gotta hurt (nm) smackd Sep 2012 #1
Thurston/Romney napkinz Sep 2012 #2
Without wasting valuable NYT views on a Brooks oped, I'd say he's thrown Romney under the bus muriel_volestrangler Sep 2012 #3
I like this paragraph malaise Sep 2012 #7
Yes, and you have to wonder ProSense Sep 2012 #10
lol - Mourning Joe just covered his face with his hands while Mika read from that eShirl Sep 2012 #4
Ha ha! City Lights Sep 2012 #14
LOL malaise Sep 2012 #5
From Brooks? Ouch. That's like Thurston getting a rebuke from his stock broker JHB Sep 2012 #6
Brooks: Romney "really doesn’t know much about the country he inhabits" Blue Yorker Sep 2012 #8
Recommended jsr Sep 2012 #9
"Turn out the lights, the party's over...." Ikonoklast Sep 2012 #11
Scathing but so true. Jennicut Sep 2012 #12
"Romney’s comments also reveal that he has lost any sense of the social compact." pampango Sep 2012 #13
Rmoney - social compact??? malaise Sep 2012 #15
The professor must have... Hubert Flottz Sep 2012 #16

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
3. Without wasting valuable NYT views on a Brooks oped, I'd say he's thrown Romney under the bus
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 06:34 AM
Sep 2012

judging by that excerpt. If you've lost the NYT's resident "reasonable conservative" since you're too right wing, you've no chance of getting independents.

malaise

(269,063 posts)
7. I like this paragraph
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 08:30 AM
Sep 2012
The people who receive the disproportionate share of government spending are not big-government lovers. They are Republicans. They are senior citizens. They are white men with high school degrees. As Bill Galston of the Brookings Institution has noted, the people who have benefited from the entitlements explosion are middle-class workers, more so than the dependent poor.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
10. Yes, and you have to wonder
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 08:43 AM
Sep 2012

how an incident that even friggin David Brooks, a consumate Republican apologist, sees as damaging can be viewed as no big deal anyone.

eShirl

(18,494 posts)
4. lol - Mourning Joe just covered his face with his hands while Mika read from that
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 06:48 AM
Sep 2012

"Wake me up in November."

JHB

(37,161 posts)
6. From Brooks? Ouch. That's like Thurston getting a rebuke from his stock broker
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 06:54 AM
Sep 2012

More positioning for a Romney loss.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
13. "Romney’s comments also reveal that he has lost any sense of the social compact."
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:20 AM
Sep 2012
In 1987, during Ronald Reagan’s second term, 62 percent of Republicans believed that the government has a responsibility to help those who can’t help themselves. Now, according to the Pew Research Center, only 40 percent of Republicans believe that.

The Republican Party, and apparently Mitt Romney, too, has shifted over toward a much more hyperindividualistic and atomistic social view — from the Reaganesque language of common citizenship to the libertarian language of makers and takers. There’s no way the country will trust the Republican Party to reform the welfare state if that party doesn’t have a basic commitment to provide a safety net for those who suffer for no fault of their own.

People are motivated when they feel competent. They are motivated when they have more opportunities. Ambition is fired by possibility, not by deprivation, as a tour through the world’s poorest regions makes clear.

... as a description of America today, Romney’s comment is a country-club fantasy.
It’s what self-satisfied millionaires say to each other. It reinforces every negative view people have about Romney. Personally, I think he’s a kind, decent man who says stupid things because he is pretending to be something he is not — some sort of cartoonish government-hater. But it scarcely matters. He’s running a depressingly inept presidential campaign.


Most of us would disagree with Brooks' opinion of the 'real' romney, but he is right that is 'scarcely matters whether he is a "cartoonish government-hater" or 'real-world' country club teabagger. Either way he is not qualified to be president.

malaise

(269,063 posts)
15. Rmoney - social compact???
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 10:31 AM
Sep 2012

You've got to be joking.

Rmoney believes in Democracy for the Few - ask Parenti.

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