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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo, is this worse than the Watergate scandal that Nixon resigned over? What do you think?
Russians paying people to kill American troops?.
.President Trump knew & did NOTHING?
Actually supported Russian leader Putin..(Putin has something on Trump???)
Worse than covering up Watergate? Or not worse than covering up Watergate...?
(my opinion)...
YES, I THINK THIS IS MUCH WORSE THAN WATERGATE...
Budi
(15,325 posts)Yes.
Skittles
(153,185 posts)honestly, if Watergate was ground level, TRUMP is in the STRATOSPHERE
Stuart G
(38,439 posts)if proven that Trump knew..., Trump will be forced to resign....same as Nixon..
Alacritous Crier
(3,818 posts)rzemanfl
(29,567 posts)I say impeach the motherfucker tomorrow and let the Repukes in the Senate decide which country they belong to. Oh, and there are a multitude of things Drumpf did that are worse than Watergate.
Alacritous Crier
(3,818 posts)that this is just too much. It will never end until he is gone and if he stays it will negatively effect each of their careers. I think they've had enough. Of course some will stick with him no matter what but I think a sizable number of them are going to turn on him.
moose65
(3,168 posts)Why dont some of them who were just re-elected in 2018 grow a spine? They wont have an election again till 2024, when Trump and all of this will be ancient history. Why do they give a shit what Trump will say about them? They could become national heroes.
Alacritous Crier
(3,818 posts)that someone so mentally, psychically and morally impoverished can hold so much sway over anyone much less the US GOP Senate. It's an embarrassment.
Glorfindel
(9,733 posts)In 1974 there were (a few) decent, honorable Republicans. Today there are none, and they're proud of themselves for being so loathsome.
John Fante
(3,479 posts)Karadeniz
(22,570 posts)Engineering the cessation of Paris peace talks...thousands of US troops were killed after that.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)...is the tweet I liked about this
Nevilledog
(51,196 posts)edhopper
(33,615 posts)Trump is a traitor and a criminal.
erronis
(15,328 posts)bogeyman scares us the most.
trump is evil incarnate.
I thought cheney was really bad. trump is far worse. I'm not sure that cheney was trying to sell out the US as trump is.
trump is particularly evil because he is easily manipulated. Even by dumbshits on fox. He doesn't know when he's being played by putin, xi, dung-ill (nork), grifters and sycophants. because he is such a f'in genius - in his pea-brain only.
ivanka and other family members are probably a tad bit smarter and are trying to milk as much as they can out of 'daddy' and the US before they need to flee.
At least during the watergate era, there were some (r)epuglicons who still cared about this country. Now it's obvious NONE OF THE REPUGLICONS CARE.
Do they think that putin is really going to take good care of them when they need to get out? Sad sacks.
LakeArenal
(28,844 posts)And supportingDictators.
Stuart G
(38,439 posts)Hit this link & take a look at that discussion...
https://www.democraticunderground.com/113512568
volstork
(5,403 posts)This is indefensible.
jalan48
(13,883 posts)Nevilledog
(51,196 posts)My opinion is probably not useful.
Xolodno
(6,398 posts)Nixon;
Third rate burglary for information that all Nixon had to do was call up the Democratic leadership and ask them what they were going to do to him that day and week and would be happy to oblige.
Faces impeachment, not because of the burglary, but because of the cover up. Had he just came out and leveled when he got connected to it, that he had a political intelligence gathering group, but had no idea they were going that far. Oh and, not piss off the most of his own party. He probably could have finished his term.
Trump;
Informed that Russian intelligence agents were offering bounties to the Taliban to send US Troops back home to their parents, wives, children in boxes. And then does nothing about it....not even a phone call to Putin telling him if he goes through with this he will address it publicly, bring it up at the UN, slap sanctions, close consulates, expel diplomats, etc.
Yeap, way fucking worse.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,494 posts)Have we forgotten about the Russian's rigging of the 2016 election? That's still being covered up.
IMO, his horrible treatment of thousands of immigrants and migrants at our Southern border is more immoral than Watergate. That's still being covered up.
Just as a couple of examples........
Stuart G
(38,439 posts)All three are equally as bad, but in different ways...good points...
Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)Actually, all in all its a-
Nother brick in the wall
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)all that Chinese money laundry proceeds going into Trumps Campaign. Oh thats right,the FEC is not a functioning entity.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)Trump doesn't know jack-sh*t about most of what goes on in this country. Those that do know, certainly should have proposed action, of some kind. I would think. Nothing about this is sitting right with me.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Snip
Officials developed a menu of potential options starting with making a diplomatic complaint to Moscow and a demand that it stop, along with an escalating series of sanctions and other possible responses, but the White House has yet to authorize any step, the officials said.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)the plot thickens. Thanks for setting me straight!
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)And then there was none.
ananda
(28,876 posts)Trump's treason is killing off his own military
and country persons.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,198 posts)Russian interference, Ukrainian shakedown, Family separations, Covid, Lafayette Square...the measure of what is a Presidential scandal has changed for the worse.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)But the measure of what constitutes a scandal has changed for the worse in very different ways for Democrats and Republicans.
For Republicans, they can get away with the most heinous and evil of things. Democrats, especially female Democrats, will be denounced for a terrible scandal over total nonsense.
Itchinjim
(3,085 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(18,870 posts)Not only do we have this absolutely horrible man as President we also have these awful Republicans who are just as bad covering for him.
Hekate
(90,787 posts)He understood government. And he did not commit treason.
marie999
(3,334 posts)Paladin
(28,272 posts)Nixon had plenty of faults, but he had a functioning brain---nobody ever considered him to be a fucking lunatic. All the difference in the world.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,655 posts)There may be something else that ends of distracting everyone, but perhaps this story has legs.
relayerbob
(6,554 posts)Makes Nixon look like a shoplifter
Demovictory9
(32,475 posts)and gets away with it
Amaryllis
(9,525 posts)hay rick
(7,639 posts)Rhiannon12866
(205,928 posts)There was no "colluding" with adversaries of this country back then. With Trump, that has happened over and over again.
ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,185 posts)whttevrr
(2,345 posts)MatthewG.
(362 posts)This is far worse than Watergate.
Watergate was an unusually brazen political dirty trick that crossed the line into criminality. Politics are often dirty in ways that bend the law. Thats not an excuse, btw. Merely a point of reference.
This (Bountygate?) is flat-out dereliction of duty with flagrant disregard for American lives. It veers very close to treason, and may even cross the line.
If I was going to draw a comparison to Watergate in terms of moral severity, the Ukraine scandal would probably be a closer match, although Id consider the Ukraine scandal somewhat worse than Watergate because it implicated a foreign government, also an American ally, and criminally drew it into the orbit of domestic politics.