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proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:05 AM Sep 2012

My interesting conversation with a Republican

I met a man yesterday who is a business owner. He has a small construction company. He was introduced to me because he used to be a teacher and we were talking about the strike in Chicago. He said he had quit teaching because he couldn't afford to take care of his family, he has a disabled child and his wife wanted to stay home and care for him. So he had to find a job where he could make more money and he ended up starting this construction company, which he said was very successful. We talked for a long time about what's going on in Chicago and he was definitely on the teachers side. One of his employees was there and he made several (incorrect) comments about teaching and public education and the man corrected him every time.

Then he said the strangest thing. He asked me if I was a Democrat or a Republican. I said I was a Democrat. He said "Me too. I'm a registered Democrat. But I think like a Republican."

I must have given him an odd look because he laughed and went on to explain. He lives in Kansas, a very red state, but he thinks the Republicans in Kansas are crazy. He doesn't want to boost their numbers. So he registers as a Democrat, has done so for years. So I asked him well, how do you vote - that's what matters. He said he votes for Democrats. Again, he wants the Republicans in his home state to fail. He thinks they're insane.

Then he asked me what I thought about the health care bill. I said I supported it. He said he didn't
know what to think about it until just a month ago he got a check from his insurance company for $3000 because of that bill. And now if anyone running for office says anything about repealing it, they've lost his vote. I asked if he thought other business owners felt that way and he said definitely, he knew quite a few who appreciated that refund.

I think I said here a couple months ago those refunds were going to help Obama win in November.

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My interesting conversation with a Republican (Original Post) proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 OP
. n/t porphyrian Sep 2012 #1
So, Obama has small businesses on the dole as well? rfranklin Sep 2012 #2
Tell me this is sarcasm. schmice Sep 2012 #6
It was sarcasm catbyte Sep 2012 #8
Thanks for being observant... rfranklin Sep 2012 #13
Thank God. I guess I'm a bit gun shy these days. schmice Sep 2012 #16
Your discussion with this "Republican"... CoffeeCat Sep 2012 #3
He did mention talk radio proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #4
Exactly, most of the people I know registered Republican decades ago. justice1 Sep 2012 #5
Some of them are starting to come around, and some of them are coming here... Volaris Sep 2012 #15
I think it wrong to call it conservatism. obxhead Sep 2012 #9
completely off the rails Cosmocat Sep 2012 #11
And I hope Fox News spirals down with the Republican Party. DippyDem Sep 2012 #12
+1 proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #14
a very rightwing family member who owns a small business loves Obamacare. antigop Sep 2012 #7
I think Harry Truman said mac56 Sep 2012 #10
k/r Dawson Leery Sep 2012 #17
 

rfranklin

(13,200 posts)
13. Thanks for being observant...
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 11:14 AM
Sep 2012

Somehow sarcasm is not as much fun if one has to add the smilie.

 

schmice

(248 posts)
16. Thank God. I guess I'm a bit gun shy these days.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 03:57 PM
Sep 2012

Seeing as it IS sarcasm, I can definitely say "Hahahahahahahahahahaha"

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
3. Your discussion with this "Republican"...
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:20 AM
Sep 2012

...really underscores the reality--that what is happening in the Republican party--is some kind of mutant, radical form of politics. It's certainly not the Republican party that we've all grown up with. It has morphed into some monster variant of conservatism.

Right-wing talk radio and Fox News has turned the party into a radical, bizarre faction that most sensible people find offensive and ridiculous. The party attracts very bizarre people now. The type who enjoy Fox News and radical, right-wing radio.

The party is really spiraling downward.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
4. He did mention talk radio
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:25 AM
Sep 2012

He said he believed most people were like him. They think like Republicans and the talk radio nuts didn't speak for most people.

justice1

(795 posts)
5. Exactly, most of the people I know registered Republican decades ago.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:35 AM
Sep 2012

Their party has been hijacked, and they don't know what to do.

Younger people I have talked with, are more likely to register independent today.

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
15. Some of them are starting to come around, and some of them are coming here...
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:18 PM
Sep 2012

They might be still a lil bit Republican in some of the things they believe, but, I think our best bet is to paraphrase Howard Dean's famous line about Democrats and BETTER Democrats in the following way...

I don't care WHY they show up here, if they support ONE Democratic Party Action/Bill/Law/Belief we can get them talking. And then, we can make them BETTER Democrats (or, at the very least, Saner, (see less crazy) Republicans).

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
9. I think it wrong to call it conservatism.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 10:41 AM
Sep 2012

The current move to austerity is more about slavery. They us to have absolutely NOTHING while we fight each other for wages that are less than it would cost to maintain a slave.

Cosmocat

(14,566 posts)
11. completely off the rails
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 11:01 AM
Sep 2012

As you noted, a VERY, VERY extreme right wing positions in nearly every issue now.

AND, near complete uniformity within the ranks.

If it was the democratic party, it would, of course, be a major issue in national political discourse.

But, I find it hard to believe that we have EVER in our history had a party that voted as one uniform block as often as the republican has for the last 12 years now - since Bush took office, especially in the house.

I know it chaffes democrats to have "Blue Dogs" but the fact of the matter is, the "middle" now exists on the right flank of the democratic party. THAT is the reality of politics today. You have the republican party as one united, uniform and completely in line party, and the democratic party made up of a liberal/progressive core and a center/right wing that has no home in the republican party.

antigop

(12,778 posts)
7. a very rightwing family member who owns a small business loves Obamacare.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 10:35 AM
Sep 2012

When he told me that, I thought he was joking. He was serious. He LOVES Obamacare. Not sure he will vote for Obama, though.

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