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WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:48 AM Sep 2012

Chuck Toad is correct--Mittens is not the first to be caught on tape behind closed doors...

saying something kind of stupid. But I do think he is the first presidential candidate that I know of to call nearly half the American people worthless bums who he isn't even going to bother with and cares nothing about.

That's a big difference, Toad!

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Chuck Toad is correct--Mittens is not the first to be caught on tape behind closed doors... (Original Post) WI_DEM Sep 2012 OP
Big difference liberal N proud Sep 2012 #1
John Hielman (sp?) on MSNBC has stated the difference between this and Obama's "guns and religion" Mike Daniels Sep 2012 #2
Yeah same thing he said on NBC Nightly News last night RockaFowler Sep 2012 #3
Yes. Here's what Obama said: pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #5
And today's release shows he's also written off the Palestinians starroute Sep 2012 #6
Yup and I find that ridiculously different from clinging to guns and religion. vaberella Sep 2012 #4

Mike Daniels

(5,842 posts)
2. John Hielman (sp?) on MSNBC has stated the difference between this and Obama's "guns and religion"
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 10:10 AM
Sep 2012

flub is that Obama said he was still going to go out and speak to that group to make his case...he wasn't going to ignore them.

Romney has effectively said that he's not going to bother trying to convert that 47%.

Chuck can spin all he wants...everyone, even the Morning Joe crew knows there's no comparison here.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
5. Yes. Here's what Obama said:
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 10:19 AM
Sep 2012

In the last paragraph he makes the point that you have to keep going out and talking to both the folks who agree with you and the folks who don't. HE doesn't write anyone off, not even those who oppose him:

But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress, uh, when there's not evidence of that in their daily lives. You go into some of these small towns in, in, Pennsylvania, a lot, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced 'em. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate, and they have not. So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to their guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or ... uh, anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

"Um, now these are in some communities, you know. I think what you'll find is, is that people of every background, um, there are gonna be a mix of people, you can go in the toughest neighborhoods, you know working-class lunch-pail folks, you'll find Obama enthusiasts. Uh, and you can go into places where you think that I'd be very strong and people will just be skeptical. The important thing is that you show up and you're doing what you're doing. So ... (unintelligible, loud applause)

http://www.cnbcfix.com/obama-cling-guns-religion.html



starroute

(12,977 posts)
6. And today's release shows he's also written off the Palestinians
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 10:56 AM
Sep 2012

Mitt's approach seems to be that when people don't agree with you, you ignore them and hope they go away.

He has no clue that the job of a president is to be problem-solver-in-chief. (Didn't Obama use that phrase? Something very like it, anyway.)

It's all about power with Mitt, I think. There are people who do what you tell them to -- often because you'll fire them if they don't -- and then there are all the rest.

vaberella

(24,634 posts)
4. Yup and I find that ridiculously different from clinging to guns and religion.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 10:14 AM
Sep 2012

Many of America strongly cling to their guns and religions and they don't use cling but they are adamant supporters of second Amendment and Evangelicalism or Christianity.

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