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kpete

(71,996 posts)
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 10:17 AM Sep 2012

WOW-David Brooks: Thurston Howell Romney "when will the incompetence stop?"

Thurston Howell Romney
By DAVID BROOKS



This comment suggests a few things. First, it suggests that he really doesn’t know much about the country he inhabits. Who are these freeloaders? Is it the Iraq war veteran who goes to the V.A.? Is it the student getting a loan to go to college? Is it the retiree on Social Security or Medicare?

It suggests that Romney doesn’t know much about the culture of America. Yes, the entitlement state has expanded, but America remains one of the hardest-working nations on earth. Americans work longer hours than just about anyone else. Americans believe in work more than almost any other people. Ninety-two percent say that hard work is the key to success, according to a 2009 Pew Research Survey.

It says that Romney doesn’t know much about the political culture. Americans haven’t become childlike worshipers of big government. On the contrary, trust in government has declined. The number of people who think government spending promotes social mobility has fallen.

The people who receive the disproportionate share of government spending are not big-government lovers. They are Republicans. They are senior citizens. They are white men with high school degrees. As Bill Galston of the Brookings Institution has noted, the people who have benefited from the entitlements explosion are middle-class workers, more so than the dependent poor.

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WOW-David Brooks: Thurston Howell Romney "when will the incompetence stop?" (Original Post) kpete Sep 2012 OP
I disagree in the "Thurston Howell" comparison get the red out Sep 2012 #1
Romney being scolded by Brooks is like Thurston being rubuked by his stockbroker JHB Sep 2012 #2
Brooks is still an idiot Blecht Sep 2012 #3
Welcome To The Clued-In Side, Brooks. Paladin Sep 2012 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author sherylkaye Sep 2012 #5
Brooks gets a couple things right, but a lot of things dead wrong magical thyme Sep 2012 #6

JHB

(37,161 posts)
2. Romney being scolded by Brooks is like Thurston being rubuked by his stockbroker
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 10:22 AM
Sep 2012

"I may have helped create this situation, but I don't answer to you, I answer to the Senior Partners of my firm, so take that, Mr. Howell!

Blecht

(3,803 posts)
3. Brooks is still an idiot
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 10:27 AM
Sep 2012

Yes, it is nice that even Brooks is attacking Romney, but giving any props to Brooks' is a mistake. His "what Americans really think" schtick is some of the most inane crap to come out of Washington.

Don't trust anybody who uses terms like "Entitlements explosion", or who uses the Brookings Institution as a source.

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magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
6. Brooks gets a couple things right, but a lot of things dead wrong
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 10:45 AM
Sep 2012

"There are sensible conclusions to be drawn from these facts."

Statistics do *not* in any way, shape or form indicate *how* the numbers got there. Brooks ignores many possible reasons so-called entitlements have grown, especially among the middle class. Such as stagnating and declining pay with rising costs.

"Sure, there are some government programs that cultivate patterns of dependency in some people. I’d put federal disability payments and unemployment insurance in this category."

And you would be wrong, Mr. Brooks. Unemployment insurance keeps people afloat while they find the best paying job they can. And in times of recession, it supports demand, which in turn supports the economy as a whole. And federal disability payments are for people who are *physically and/or mentally unable to work* Mr. Brooks. Believe it or not, that does happen. I have never heard of anybody having disability handed to them -- everybody I know has been practically in the street and overwhelmed with bills by the time it is granted, due to being unable to work and having to live on nothing for an extended time while their case is reviewed and re-reviewed.

"Personally, I think he’s a kind, decent man who says stupid things..."

Well there we totally disagree. Thurston Howell, my ass. He was among friends and allies when he spoke. He wasn't trying to be anything he's not. For once, he was totally comfortable and saying exactly what he believes. But you're right about one point. It was an incredibly stupid thing to say....and vile to believe it.

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