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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFor those people who insist on going out without a mask....
Here you go folks... for those people who DON'T understand what it means to be on a VENTILATOR but want to take the chance of going out without a MASK...
For starters, it's NOT an oxygen mask put over the mouth while the patient is comfortably lying down and reading magazines. Ventilation for Covid-19 is a PAINFUL intubation that goes down your throat and stays there until you live or you die
It is done under anesthesia for 2 to 3 weeks without moving, often upside down, with a tube inserted from the mouth up to the trachea and allows you to breathe to the rhythm of the lung machine. The patient can't talk or eat, or do anything naturally - the device keeps you alive
The discomfort and PAIN they feel from this means medical experts have to administer sedatives and painkillers to ensure tube tolerance for as long as the machine is needed. It's like being in an artificial coma
After 20 days from this treatment, a young patient loses 40% muscle mass, and gets mouth or vocal cords trauma, as well as possible pulmonary or heart complications
It is for this reason that old or already weak people can't withstand the treatment and die. This is NOT the flu
Anyone want to try all that out? Stay home and wear a mask when you go out! Stay safe and well!
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Posted by one of my contacts, don't know the source.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)I want to send it to a few people, but would like have more input on the accuracy first.
Bayard
(22,149 posts)gristy
(10,667 posts)Scary, but hardly a death sentence.
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Also, intensive care doctors say ICU teams are becoming more skilled at treating COVID-19 patients as they gain experience with the disease. For example, they are doing more to prevent dangerous blood clots from forming.
That means COVID-19 mortality rates in ICUs are likely to decrease over time, Coopersmith says.
"It's still going to be a devastating disease," he says, "but a more manageable devastating disease."
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)However, this seems to be a caveat:
If the positive cases keep rising, we may have shortages of equipment & personnel. And careful planning might not be done in many places.
Midnightwalk
(3,131 posts)From witnessing others and being on the receiving end treatment is not an exact science. The doctors and nurses who are there get clues about what works and doesnt.
Ventilators look complicated. A graphical display that monitors some things. Like a curve that looked like a respiration cycle that is shaded to show some things I dont remember. Some knobs. I am a geek.
Im sure the medical professionals are trained to use them well. Theres some science but also clinical experience in how to use ventilators. What works, what doesnt, and when to do what. Covid-19 is maybe different.
Id guess they have gained more experience in this disease. You dont do those jobs unless you are dedicated and smart. There is more clinical experience with this disease all the time unfortunately.
Same story. If you fill the ICUs, then you cant get a ventilator. If you cant get a hospital room you cant get the treatments available there.
Keep trying to not infect others and not get infected either.
Trust a doctor or a nurse. Not me.
central scrutinizer
(11,661 posts)Palliative care only. Pump me full of morphine and let me go die. Theres a copy on my refrigerator, one on my phone and my daughter has a copy.
Auggie
(31,186 posts)Its good advice
Mr.Bill
(24,319 posts)but I read a quote here on DU from a doctor who is Congresswoman Katie Porter's sister. As best I remember she said this: If you don't wear a mask I hope you don't mind being intubated by a Gynecology intern who just did her last semester of medical school via Zoom.
Those Porter sisters have a wicked sense of humor!