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Caller into Stephanie Miller talked about when she went to the store, black people had their shopping carts piled with food and the parking lot was full of Escalades. Then she complained about her son being out of work trying to scrape by on unemployment and $13 a week for food stamps. Evidently, those blacks were getting more welfare and food stamps than her son with their food piled shopping carts and Escalades according to her.
Stephanie suggested she move to Montana or Wyoming. I hate to tell that bigoted white mama but I have lived in both states. They are very white. It's seldom you see a person of color there. When I went to the store, about every other woman I saw in line had food stamps because the poverty in those states that are very rural is very real. These are very poor white people who benefit from federal programs to help them out.
Really? The welfare queen meme cuts both ways.
liberal N proud
(60,336 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)She seemed to think the blacks were getting all kinds of assistance her son wasn't getting.
cordelia
(2,174 posts)I think that was a defense of the south, by pointing out that the racist woman was from Chicago and not from the south.
Reading comprehension; it's your friend.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)just like the woman this OP is about.
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)Response to gaspee (Reply #23)
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freshwest
(53,661 posts)Have good paying jobs, they'd feel bad about their crummy ones. I've found people with good educations and jobs don't concern themselves with who else is getting along well. Their confidence is not based on their race or gender, but their own skills and experience. People who are not doing well tend to look to someone else higher or lower in their minds to find a spot. The sooner poor whites find common cause with other poor people no matter who it is, the sooner they can unite for a solution together or improve their lot with education or connections. Focusing on the race and sex of others to find a stepping stone is for people that are stuck on the bottom and are not going to change their lives.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)to vote for Romney/Ryan because those are just the buttons he's been hitting. We think he's out of touch when he says what he's been saying the past few days, but he is pushing the buttons of people just like her. I really didn't think they still existed in such pure form except in White Supremacist compounds but hearing her tells me I was wrong.
valerief
(53,235 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Easy to kick someone that one considers beneath themselves. If that is the kind of mean-spirited, petty person one is.
To be a liberal is to be confident that there is enough for all to survive and all should be treated equally to increase the wealth. Those who decide they have a one place or one chance to make it, hold on whatever it is under it becomes their master.
If humanity has, as liberals believe infinite in possibilities, there is no use holding on to one dead thing or position, it's a drag on the present and the future. Most of the people I know that act like baggers have a sense of avarice which can never be satisifed, and they find the rich to their example of success.
They have already lost the battle. It takes courage to stand up to robber barons. Despite all the howling baggers do about taxes, they would not dare go up against their boss. That's what a union does, gets in the middle of real surivival.
One can often escape taxes, if one has to do so. The roof over your head and the food on your table is a harder negotiation. I defer to the writings of Chomsky or Parenti on who holds the most power in our lives. It's not the evil government people like to bash, it has limits.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)I tried to enlighten some of these hate radio repeaters on another website. It just so happens in many cases that people on food stamps are given rides by their neighbors in cars so it proves nothing. Another thing is that people will sometimes buy the best car they can that are only able to rent a modest house or apartment. Since the car is attainable, and a home mortgage is not. The caller was either repeating the voices in her head that day, or has a stunning lack of real world situations and has combined that with an innate sense of pettiness and venality. A closed mind cannot fathom the infinite variety of lifestyles that strangers have. And resents it all.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)could have belonged to the execs of that store, maybe visiting for the day from the home office.
bongbong
(5,436 posts)> The caller was either repeating the voices in her head that day, or has a stunning lack of real world situations and has combined that with an innate sense of pettiness and venality.
Those scenarios are unlikely. However, what is 99.9% likely is that she was just lying.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Focus on that one item they think is out of place, and magnifiy it a thousand-fold to fit their filter. Or she was just bullshitting, which is exactly what Rush, Beck and Boortz do on a daily basis.
It sounds so sweet to their listeners sense of faux victimization. I could probably walk the batshit lady in my neighborhood, which is happy and prosperous, very diverse and where those 'furriners' and POC are living well.
In fact, they are living far too well to be on welfare, period. They get up every day, go to work, church on the weekends and are tight with their money. They are no different in their lifestyles than the most dedicated example of baggers. The minority race welfare queen is a Nixon-era myth the GOP won't let go of, despite the fact that most reciepents are white.
When a person has defined their last vestige of dignity or self-esteem from their race or sex, etc., they are scraping the bottom of the barrel as it has nothing to do with character, accomplishments or anything higher than flesh. It's a low bar.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)The racist "welfare queen" meme is so embedded that they don't even see THEMSELVES as being dependent even when THEY were on food stamps.
My family is full of such Rush Limbaugh/Fox News people.
The willful ignorance is STUNNING.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)I think there is hope after all.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)It describes 95% of the people that used to be my family. They disowned me for money. Call themselves "Christians".
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)Not very Christian...or civilized or humane, imho.
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)but not like it used to, detachment made life so much more pleasant.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)My entire family back east are Rush/FOX fanatics who ironically all collect some form of assistance while repeating the racist welfare meme. I'll never understand how they can get so worked up about others needing the same assistance they do.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)It's my personal opinion that they are terrified (of their own circumstances, that the world has changed before their very eyes, etc.), and Fox/Rush, etc. feed their fear and give them a target. Their fear manifests as anger.
Anger obliterates rationality. Fox/Rush feed them what they want to hear/see that supports their worldview.
It's all the fault of The Other. Pretty much anyone who isn't white and Christian is The Other for many of the people I know.
I feel for you.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)It's Escalades with "spinner" wheel covers.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)I was just repeating what she said.
maryellen99
(3,789 posts)Bucky
(54,027 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)this is a special bigotry that seems to be directed by white people towards African Americans. I don't hear Asians or Hispanics carry on about welfare queens.
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)You don't see African Americans getting the "illegal alien" meme. Other than Obama, of course.
GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)the Caller's story:
greatauntoftriplets
(175,742 posts)Illinois hasn't had food stamps for years. They were replaced by the EBT card.
http://www.dhs.state.il.us/page.aspx?item=44170
Cleita
(75,480 posts)She said he got $13 for food and as far as she was concerned they could take it back because you couldn't buy anything with it. I made the assumption it was food stamps. My bad.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,742 posts)I still think the woman's story is BS.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)One guy I know tried to tell me that when he was working (he's retired now), he worked with blacks but he said they were lazy and didn't work hard unless someone is looking. I told him he was full of shit. I worked in the Post Office at UCLA once and was one of the few white people in the department. I never saw a harder working crew in my life. These people, both male and female really pulled their weight. I told him so and I haven't heard from him since.
DoBotherMe
(2,340 posts)successful and wealthy blacks. She's just an old school bigot who can't rid herself of an institutionalized stereotype. There are stores in my town that cater to the well to do crowd in this predominately white community, the parking lot is full of expensive, showy autos. Dana ; )
Cleita
(75,480 posts)EC
(12,287 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)But Obama successful in even a better way, he got elected President of the United States.
ladjf
(17,320 posts)distorted reality beyond any believable truth. I've never seen anything even vaguely similar to what was described even though I've live in Mis, alabama, Louisiana and Georgia.
Her story is an elaborate fabrication.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)The talking point is too stereotyped.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)there are people who want to put this meme out there means there are people who believe this way. Sad in this day and age.
Rider3
(919 posts)That's all there is to it. We live in a very sorry state of affairs these days, and the ignorance within our society is just making things so much worse.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)That tired old meme is and always has been a crock of bigoted shit.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)because that is what she is. Every time I see or hear the "people on welfare driving escalades with manicures and tattoos" meme I call bullshit. Can't tell you how many flame wars I've started on FB calling out that pathetic ugly racist lie. It's a LIE! And the people who repeat it are ignorant hate filled bigots.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)You know Stephanie just makes fun of them and makes them look like asses.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)get the red out
(13,466 posts)Every person on food stamps that I ever saw until I was in college was white. That woman is an idiot, poor people come in all shades. She needs to pay a visit to Eastern Kentucky sometime.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)She also questioned her why it was all right for her sons to get government benefits but no one else. The woman was a head case. Unfortunately, she has a vote like the old bat who tried to tell McCain that Obama was a Muslim way back when. It's a dangerous mindset that has been ruining our country because of the candidates who tap into it and push their racist buttons for votes.
get the red out
(13,466 posts)Where I grew up, without government help a lot of people would be looking at death. And a lot of those people will vote against President Obama no matter what. I guess they can't even figure out to value their own lives, like this woman can't place value on the fact that her son got help when he needed it. The Repukes have done a good job convincing people to lay their lives on the line to vote for them, taking over the Churches was essential in that, as well as RW radio embracing racism and fearmongering.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)People living without electricity and plumbing and hunting or scavenging what they can in the woods to survive.
EC
(12,287 posts)to see how the food was paid for and which cars they ended up in? Was she just assuming that they all had food cards and were driving those cars? Yep, she's jealous that her son wasn't poor enough to qualify for more. Isn't it her ilk that put such low income limits on the qualifying standards?
Cleita
(75,480 posts)they turn around and blame someone else.
wildflower
(3,196 posts)Steph & friends, and I, were dumbfounded.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)prison.
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)..."If they're all in prison, how are they driving around in Escaldes, using food stamps??" The disconnect was stunning. I am sure this segment will show up in her "highlights" section on her web page.
Spirochete
(5,264 posts)should not be sold to black people - food or Escalades - or both?
Cleita
(75,480 posts)and run around hiding from white people snatching food from a dumpster. I believe they think that of Hispanics too.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)and people who work in government from the GOP?
It burns their ass to see retired, well-dressed black people being able to afford food in the grocery store. Never mind that they don't care that retired white people are in line with them. I'm white, and live in the South. I hear these things.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Miller's only response was to suggest the caller move Montana or Wyoming??
Cleita
(75,480 posts)It's hard to find a person of color in any of those states including Idaho unless they are Native American. So that's what she's getting at if the caller didn't like living with non-white people, she should go live there. However, if Mary, the caller, doesn't approve of welfare, she will be disappointed cuz some of the poorest people in America live in the rural areas of those three states.
treestar
(82,383 posts)I see this mentality a lot. It can apply to all sorts of things.
Take personal injury cases. I heard a person seriously tell me that soft tissue neck ache is a serious injury. She had it happen to her. She was rear ended and she had a permanent injury.
But other people who sue - they are frauds.
maryellen99
(3,789 posts)due to the fact that he had not one but two neck fusions because the first one failed.
I think the meme by teabggers about workers comp being an entitlement that should be cut is starting to spread too.
NightHawk63
(473 posts)... to today's podcast. As soon as I saw the title of this thread I knew it was referring to "road flare Mary". What a complete racist fool she is!
JI7
(89,252 posts)mostly white people who think the "coloreds" have wrongly taken what is theirs.
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)Native Americans.