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LuckyCharms

(17,455 posts)
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 02:29 AM Jul 2020

Neighbors.

I know, I complain about them constantly.

Adjoining side yard. We both are outside in our side and back yards a lot.

4th of July: A good sized picnic over there. Four couples and about a million kids. Drinking. Kids running around. One kid, very young, completely unsupervised, trying to shimmy up a drainpipe. Everyone hugging and kissing. Firecrackers. Loose dogs. No masks to be seen on anyone.

Daily: An endless stream of strangers over there. Some doing hired work, some visiting. New and different people everyday. Have not seen a mask ONCE. If I go out in the yard, I am constantly being approached by someone over there. How many times can you stick your hand out and tell someone to back the fuck up because you have medical conditions. How many times can you say "Hey, not trying to be a prick or anything, but I have to tell you daily to keep away". The response? Oh yeah yeah, sorry! I forgot!

I'm nervous and jerky every time I walk out my door. I put a mask on. I suck wind and suffer through it while mowing the lawn for 3 hours in 90 degree heat, because I don't want anyone over there getting sick because of me...in case I'm asymptomatic. I do it because they are not smart enough to stay the fuck away from me. But who protects me from them? I do, but it's stressful. I can't relax. Always have to keep my eyes open. Have to keep my head on a swivel.

I self quarantine close to 100% of the time. Only go outside of my property when I need to buy stuff in order to survive. Always curbside pickup. Now I worry about even going in my own goddamn yard. So, do I tell them that if they come near me one more fucking time that I'm going to smack the shit out of them? No, can't do that. I'm smart enough to know that if you put your neighbors uptight, you have a war on your hands for the rest of your life.

I've raised my voice, I've pleaded, I've literally RAN to maintain distance...it just bounces off them. And the kids. What am I going to do? Scream at a little kid? Frighten a kid after I've already spoken to the mom? No, can't do that.

This is the strangest bullshit I've ever experienced.

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Neighbors. (Original Post) LuckyCharms Jul 2020 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author diva77 Jul 2020 #1
Not possible to put up some kind of fence? marybourg Jul 2020 #2
Part of the yard is fenced, part is not... LuckyCharms Jul 2020 #5
Outside especially and the distance in the yards, I do not see why you are concerned. LizBeth Jul 2020 #3
That's what they try to do. LuckyCharms Jul 2020 #6
Also, LizBeth... LuckyCharms Jul 2020 #9
I'm old and say in your words, rusty quoin Jul 2020 #4
Yes, LC, we're no longer a nation of ladies and gentlemen...... KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2020 #7
Thank you, KY... LuckyCharms Jul 2020 #8
They will care come November. roamer65 Jul 2020 #10
There are many, many people Nature Man Jul 2020 #16
That is no way to live. yankeepants Jul 2020 #11
If your climate is not too cold... WestLosAngelesGal Jul 2020 #12
It is my understanding that outside you are safe without a mask cate94 Jul 2020 #13
You are correct... LuckyCharms Jul 2020 #20
Not safe, but safer. Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #21
Sounds to me like they are trying to be friendly at least. GulfCoast66 Jul 2020 #14
I do ask them to stay 6 feet away. Every day. That's what I'm saying. LuckyCharms Jul 2020 #18
Look at them square in the eye mercuryblues Jul 2020 #15
I've done the first part. LuckyCharms Jul 2020 #19
time to go with the sign mercuryblues Jul 2020 #22
To stay safe, Safe says go on Amazon safeinOhio Jul 2020 #17
Americans are idiots. maxsolomon Jul 2020 #23

Response to LuckyCharms (Original post)

LuckyCharms

(17,455 posts)
5. Part of the yard is fenced, part is not...
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 02:43 AM
Jul 2020

If I'm in the fenced part...say 10 feet away from the fence working...they'll go right up to the fence and start talking to me when my back is facing them, thus scaring the shit out of me and causing me to do a quick calculation in my head to determine how far away I am from the fence. It's maddening.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
3. Outside especially and the distance in the yards, I do not see why you are concerned.
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 02:41 AM
Jul 2020

I mean if they came up to you to talk, then yes. But sounds like you are well 6 ft apart.

LuckyCharms

(17,455 posts)
9. Also, LizBeth...
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 03:08 AM
Jul 2020

A main concern of mine concerning the masks does not have to do with just myself. With the amount of people coming and going over there, I am concerned that there is zero social distancing at that home (both inside and outside of the house), and zero masks. So while I worry for myself, I also worry for the children there, the parents, and the people visiting.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
7. Yes, LC, we're no longer a nation of ladies and gentlemen......
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 02:46 AM
Jul 2020

or at least it's become quite rare. What you described would make one want to put up a much taller fence, but then that make me feel like I'm living in a box.

I live in an old low-to-middle income urban neighborhood which is really alien to my country upbringing. Far too many of my neighbors are rude, selfish and inconsiderate beyond my comprehension. Part of it probably is just youthful energy and stupidity but a lot is just plain meanness. I think some of these idiots have to have a device with a 2-cycle engine to wipe their ass. Some days, it's a constant drone of noise and I'm super sensitive to it.

I've watched our society slowly go through the transition from the 50s to now and honestly don't know where we're headed in the future. I worry for my 13YO granddaughter.


Best of luck and thanks for sharing........

LuckyCharms

(17,455 posts)
8. Thank you, KY...
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 03:01 AM
Jul 2020

I don't want to go into any more detail because it would reveal too much personal information for the internet, but suffice to say I have lived here a long time and I am well liked by pretty much everyone on the block...because I've made it a point to cultivate friendly, or at least civil, relationships with all of my neighbors.

I think this one of the reasons I am approached so often. We've been through two bad natural disasters here. We've all helped each other out. I'm super friendly even to the people I don't especially care for. But things have changed since the pandemic. Most of my neighbors are super careful, and are isolating as much as possible.. They are masked if they go to work, or when they go to the store. We speak in person often, only we have to yell a bit because we keep our distance. We also talk via texting. Most of the people on my street are older than me, and I'm old.

But the younger people on the block...they don't care. They don't seem to have any concern about this pandemic.

Best wishes to you...

yankeepants

(1,979 posts)
11. That is no way to live.
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 05:08 AM
Jul 2020

Stockade fence makes for great neighbors. Six feet up or they are going to drive you six feet under. All best LC.

cate94

(2,813 posts)
13. It is my understanding that outside you are safe without a mask
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 06:06 AM
Jul 2020

That is as long as you maintain that 6’ distance. Sorry I can’t link to the epidemiologist article I read that would back me up. I’ll try and find it for you. It won’t help with neighbors, but might help with the lawn mowing!

LuckyCharms

(17,455 posts)
20. You are correct...
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 01:12 PM
Jul 2020

but they don't respect the 6 feet unless I remind them every 5 minutes.

This entire problem is the result of a lack of awareness. A lack of concern. a "what's the big deal" attitude.

Ms. Toad

(34,086 posts)
21. Not safe, but safer.
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 01:16 PM
Jul 2020

If you look at the list at the link below, there are many outdoor activities that are not in the lowest risk level category.

https://www.kltv.com/2020/06/11/medical-experts-rank-activities-by-covid-risk-level/

Personally, unless I'm in my own yard (we don't have neighbors who wander in), I wear a mask - that includes the relativly low risk acivity of bicycling on a shared trail.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
14. Sounds to me like they are trying to be friendly at least.
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 07:22 AM
Jul 2020

Just ask them to stay 6 feet away each time you see them. You are pretty much safe outdoors. I seldom wear a mask outside. Most spread is by extended indoor contact.

As far as what the do on their property; it’s really not your problem. Sounds like they are not too smart. But not your problem, anyway.

This virus has us all on edge.

LuckyCharms

(17,455 posts)
18. I do ask them to stay 6 feet away. Every day. That's what I'm saying.
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 01:08 PM
Jul 2020

The majority of the property line is unfenced. I've never been one to get too excited about a property line. The kids cross the line all of the time and play on both properties, which I don't mind as long as I'm inside while they are doing it.

Their two huge dogs take enormous dumps in my flower bed every day. I shovel it up and throw it in their driveway. They don't get embarrassed about it.

So what happens on "their" property is really my business, because it's really all one property without a fence in place, Unless i wanted to go all Gran Torino on them and tell them to get off my lawn, but I'm not that type.

mercuryblues

(14,537 posts)
15. Look at them square in the eye
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 07:42 AM
Jul 2020

and say

Look, I am immunocompromised, if I get this virus I might well die. I shouldn't have to remind you about basic respect of my health every time I see you. You're not teenagers that need to be consistently told to do something.

or put a sign up that says...

when you enter this yard, mask; ass or grass. The choice is yours.

mercuryblues

(14,537 posts)
22. time to go with the sign
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 02:47 PM
Jul 2020

You shouldn't have to remind them, they are supposedly adults.

Like a good neighbor, it's the mask you should wear.

Don't come knockin' without a mask on your noggin

before you take another step, put a mask on your nose & lip



safeinOhio

(32,714 posts)
17. To stay safe, Safe says go on Amazon
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 08:15 AM
Jul 2020

and order one of those $20 Hazmat suits and a face shield to go over your mask and suit up when you go out the door.
That might get their attention.

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