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SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 03:58 PM Jul 2020

What if Trump loses but insists he won? (WaPo)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/06/what-if-trump-loses-insists-he-won/

On his present trajectory, President Trump is heading for a whopping defeat in November. The Economist says there’s nearly a 99 percent chance that Joe Biden will win more popular votes and around a 90 percent chance that he will win more electoral college votes. But what if Trump won’t concede defeat? That is a nightmare scenario for our democracy that could make the 2000 showdown over Florida’s hanging chads seem like a grade-school dispute by comparison.

Trump is already laying the foundation to dispute the election outcome with his incessant claims that “Mail-In Ballots will lead to MASSIVE electoral fraud and a RIGGED 2020 Election.” Election officials label such concerns as “preposterous” and “false.” But they will serve as an excuse for the Republican Party to purge voter-registration rolls, limit mail-in ballots, close polling stations in minority areas and challenge in-person voting by minorities. Whatever it takes to win.

It’s doubtful that anything Trump does will produce a popular-vote victory; he lost by nearly 3 million votes in 2016 and will probably lose by a greater margin this year. But it won’t matter if, by election night, he is within spitting distance of an electoral college victory.

I recently took part in a “war game” to see what would happen under those circumstances. The session was organized by the Transition Integrity Project, a nonpartisan group founded by Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law School and Nils Gilman of the Berggruen Institute. The scenario we were given predicted a narrow Biden victory in the electoral college: 278 to 260. Various participants played the role of the Trump campaign, the Biden campaign, Republican and Democratic elected officials, the news media, and other key players to see what would happen next.


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underpants

(182,868 posts)
5. A lot of his supporters are completely certain he's going to win in a landslide
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 04:06 PM
Jul 2020

I see it all over the place on Facebook

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
10. Those are most likely Russians. I'm not kidding.
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 04:13 PM
Jul 2020

Or amplifying Russian disinformation.

They have convinced themselves of a huge win for traitor tot and when he loses they will lose their minds.

underpants

(182,868 posts)
12. Mostly people I went to high school with
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 04:50 PM
Jul 2020

Some old Army buddies. Any good news is victory lap time not that they’ve had much good news recently.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
6. Lock him in the White House and run the government from somewhere else.
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 04:08 PM
Jul 2020

Then get a restraining order to have him removed, physically if necessary.

Then get a Court decision to make it official.

SKKY

(11,818 posts)
7. He won't be. I'm even more convinced of that now that a year ago.
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 04:12 PM
Jul 2020

The thing about adversity everyone gets wrong is that it doesn't develop character, it reveals it. And Trumps character is laid bare for all to see.

JustAnotherGen

(31,869 posts)
11. The nightly network news and local newspapers
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 04:29 PM
Jul 2020

Need to be contacted NOW. Writing letters to the editors and reaching the masses of viewers who don't watch the round the clock stations - will get the message out.

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
13. The Supreme Court just ruled that electors are not allowed to go "rogue" at the electoral college...
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 04:59 PM
Jul 2020

but only 32 states have laws in place dictating that electors must represent the majority will of the people. 2 other states allow electors to be split along county lines. Who knows what could happen in the remaining states?

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