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Mary Trump says Donald's bragging & false bravado aimed at "audience of one: his long-dead father" (Original Post) highplainsdem Jul 2020 OP
Like Norman Bates' mom. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #1
Ugh... you're totally right. tinrobot Jul 2020 #2
We need to put in a new rule that anyone running for President must successfully complete redstatebluegirl Jul 2020 #3
+ a MILLION! FirstLight Jul 2020 #5
Especially since they have access to the nuclear codes. redstatebluegirl Jul 2020 #10
Wonder what he keeps in the basement of Trump Tower?....nt wcmagumba Jul 2020 #4
EEW! leftieNanner Jul 2020 #8
You just can't tell with this loony drumph... wcmagumba Jul 2020 #11
You can either I_UndergroundPanther Jul 2020 #6
I will agree. Narcissists are born, not made dhol82 Jul 2020 #7
Yep I_UndergroundPanther Jul 2020 #9
I agree. I sometimes worry that this book will make people pity him, however there smirkymonkey Jul 2020 #13
My childhood was a nightmare I_UndergroundPanther Jul 2020 #14
Wishing them a quick reunion. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #12
That's why he has a large, very prominent picture of his father on his desk, kskiska Jul 2020 #15

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
3. We need to put in a new rule that anyone running for President must successfully complete
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 02:17 PM
Jul 2020

a mental health evaluation before they can go on the ballot.

FirstLight

(13,366 posts)
5. + a MILLION!
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 02:21 PM
Jul 2020

...an IQ test might also be in order IMO

Now there's people that would say that is unfair and who gets to do the test etc...but we HAVE to have some level of competency for the fucking POTUS!!!

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
10. Especially since they have access to the nuclear codes.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 02:40 PM
Jul 2020

THAT is what keeps me awake at night with the orange toad.

leftieNanner

(15,173 posts)
8. EEW!
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 02:36 PM
Jul 2020

You mean like those relics they have in Catholic Churches?

We visited Saint Catherine's Church in Sienna Italy a few years ago. They have her head in a box on display.

Ugh.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
6. You can either
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 02:22 PM
Jul 2020

Appease and become an abuser

Or choose not to.

Millions of people grow up being abused and not all of them turn into monsters.

Because some decide at some point,no I will not become an abusive piece of shit, they fight to keep thier humanity.

Assuming abused children because they are being abused makes them abusers,is a lie of ignorance called the vampire myth by people who help people escape abuse they know abuse does not always make people monsters,even children.

I think trump was born a narcissist, so he chose to be an abusive criminal like his father who was also had no empathy .

I grew up with terrible abuse, was unsafe in my home,my town school ..still I have complex PTSD,dissociation,major depression anxiety and more,but I remembered choosing to not become like an abuser,bully or be them,my parents.


If you have the faculty of empathy innate inside you you can choose to empathize enough with your own suffering and others suffering to make the decision to not become an abuser to others .

Born narcissists make the decision to become abusers. Because they are born without empathy.

I think this is the truth.

My cousin like me grew up with horrible abuse, too. She told me she chose, to live by it's better other people suffer instead of me.

She is a diagnosed sociopath.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
9. Yep
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 02:37 PM
Jul 2020

I told my cousin I had not pegged her as a sociopath, the very last time I spoke to her..we grew up together even though we grew up in seperate homes. She told me she made the choice for other people should suffer rather than she.

Her life is a tornado of drug abuse,harming others and stealing all my relatives have learned to not be around her.

She told me the only people she cares about is me,and my mom.

Apparently sociopaths can select who they choose to care about. So they are quite aware of the choices they make and why and whom.

I have seen the same choices in other dark triad people in group therapy.

It's not something I made up. Wish this angle got researched more among psychiatry.


Today I do not socialize at all with her knowing what she chose to be.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
13. I agree. I sometimes worry that this book will make people pity him, however there
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 12:04 AM
Jul 2020

are millions of people, myself included, who have endured much worse abuse - mental, physical and psychological , lack of love and ridiculously high standards set forth by a narcissistic, unloving, sadistic parent who did not grow up to be like Donald Trump. Not even close.

Many of us have chosen to take responsibility for our lives, get help and turn things around so that we could live relatively happy, productive lives without using and abusing other people. I'm sorry he had a shitty childhood. Join the club. It's no excuse. Particularly when you are in a position where you are able to affect the lives and well-being of hundreds of millions of people. Fuck him and his sad little childhood.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
14. My childhood was a nightmare
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 04:02 PM
Jul 2020

And fuck trump.

He chose not to care.
He is an empty shell in my mind
All out of fucks to give to any dark triads and narcissists.

kskiska

(27,048 posts)
15. That's why he has a large, very prominent picture of his father on his desk,
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 04:38 PM
Jul 2020

and a much smaller one of his mother. "I'll show HIM!"

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