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(47,486 posts)
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 01:16 PM Jul 2020

The case for Valerie Jarrett as Biden's VP - Kathleen Parker WaPo

The mystery of Joe Biden’s running mate takes me back to 2008, when the political world breathlessly awaited John McCain’s surprise pick. Back then, the whispered word was that Democrat-turned-independent Joe Lieberman was McCain’s top choice. But the powers that used to be wanted a relatively unknown dynamo from Alaska — then-Gov. Sarah Palin. After a chat with McCain in Sedona, Ariz., where all manner of magic is said to occur, the roguish, pro-life mom of five, got a wink and the nod — and changed the course of our politics. With three clicks of her red, shiny shoes, the wonder from Wasilla helped usher the Grand Old Party into a regressive era of ignorance, intransigence and an ideological muddle of racism, sexism and nationalistic xenophobia that ultimately produced a Confederate-flag defending, authoritarian-worshipping, Queens-bred reality-TV star named Donald Trump.

(snip)

Biden has promised to pick a woman, and pressure is mounting for him to pick an African American woman. This is in response to the Black Lives Matter movement, but also because of his obvious debt to the black female voters of South Carolina, who, upon the endorsement of the state’s elder statesman, Rep. James E. Clyburn, are credited with handing him the Democratic nomination.

(snip)

But two other names, one of them as yet unmentioned, stand out — former U.N. ambassador Susan Rice and, wait for it, former Obama senior adviser Valerie Jarrett. Both women are whip smart, highly trained and experienced in world affairs. Both know Biden well and are highly qualified to assist him on both international and domestic fronts. Neither has experience running for high office, but there are more important things. Should the worst come to pass, either woman could skip orientation and start fully equipped to lead. Indeed, Jarrett, a lawyer, businesswoman and Stanford graduate, was basically a shadow president for eight years next to Obama.

Though Rice also served as Obama’s national security adviser, she’s unfairly freighted with political baggage that Jarrett, working behind the scenes, has escaped. Recall 2012 when Rice, stepping in for then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, reported on five Sunday news shows that attacks on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, were a “spontaneous” reaction to a viral, anti-Muslim video. When subsequent investigations proved otherwise, Rice was unfairly accused of “lying.” I defended Rice at the time and stand by that column.

Jarrett, meantime, was “in the room,” as she has put it, on nearly every crucial issue during the Obama administration. Having spent time with her socially and in the White House, I can attest to her graciousness, intelligence and absolute discretion. She’s no one’s fool and holds her cards close. While serving the president, she also pursued her own projects, speaking often on the country’s toxic politics, the need for compromise and issues of the day. During a recent Axios interview, asked to comment on Biden’s vice presidential choices, Jarrett said, “I trust him completely to pick the right person.” Here’s looking at you, Valerie.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-case-for-valerie-jarrett-as-bidens-vp/2020/07/07/1c89caf8-c08f-11ea-9fdd-b7ac6b051dc8_story.html



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The case for Valerie Jarrett as Biden's VP - Kathleen Parker WaPo (Original Post) question everything Jul 2020 OP
Jarrett was born in Iran. She cannot become president. CurtEastPoint Jul 2020 #1
Bazinga ! obnoxiousdrunk Jul 2020 #2
To American Parents irisblue Jul 2020 #5
"Jarrett was born in Shiraz, Iran, ... , to American parents James E. Bowman and Barbara T. Bowman. PoliticAverse Jul 2020 #6
That isn't how that works. PTWB Jul 2020 #9
I stand corrected. CurtEastPoint Jul 2020 #13
But not natural born unc70 Jul 2020 #22
That's up for debate. PTWB Jul 2020 #23
Interesting. George Romney, who was a candidate in 1968 was born in Mexico to American parents question everything Jul 2020 #24
Ypu'd Think Parker Would Know That Me. Jul 2020 #19
No, Biden needs to take a step away from Obama... Why he needs Harris, or Warren over Rice... JCMach1 Jul 2020 #3
No friggin' way zipplewrath Jul 2020 #4
Parker is a Right Winger, we Democrats need advice & guidance from her? irisblue Jul 2020 #7
Thank you n/t shanti Jul 2020 #12
A "right winger" will say this? question everything Jul 2020 #25
From her wiki... And my reading her columns over the years irisblue Jul 2020 #26
From the OP question everything Jul 2020 #27
I did read it, earlier today and I forgot it until you replied to me, I've read a few other things t irisblue Jul 2020 #31
Dems Need Suggestions From Parker? ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #8
Kinda nice to listen to arguments on the merit question everything Jul 2020 #11
Silly ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #18
Kathleen Parker knows full well that the RW media has targeted Jarrett StatGirl Jul 2020 #21
Maybe a Chief of Staff... n/t hlthe2b Jul 2020 #10
That's a winner StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #28
You lost me at Kathleen Parker blogslut Jul 2020 #14
Too much baggage...bad idea greenjar_01 Jul 2020 #15
There isn't a Dem woman in America that doesn't already have a target on her back. maxsolomon Jul 2020 #17
Sigh StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #29
It's exhausting the effort they put in to take our pieces off the board. maxsolomon Jul 2020 #32
And this is from our allies ... StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #35
Biden needs a Pol. One that shines on the hustings. maxsolomon Jul 2020 #16
She's not even on the list. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 2020 #20
You have access to Biden's list? StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #30
He's said he would announce his pick by Aug. 1. This is the first trial balloon for Jarrett Fiendish Thingy Jul 2020 #33
So, no. You don't have access to Biden's list and are in no position to determine who isn't on it StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #34
Do you agree she would be an unexpected surprise pick? Nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 2020 #36

irisblue

(32,980 posts)
5. To American Parents
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 01:25 PM
Jul 2020

From her wiki-"Jarrett was born in Shiraz, Iran,[1] during the Pahlavi dynasty, to American parents James E. Bowman and Barbara T. Bowman. Her father, a pathologist and geneticist, ran a hospital for children in Shiraz in 1956 as part of a program where American physicians and agricultural experts sought to help in the health and farming efforts of developing countries."

much more there.
Also trying to explain that to the ignorant will be very very difficult.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
23. That's up for debate.
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 03:35 PM
Jul 2020
The natural-born-citizen clause has been mentioned in passing in several decisions of the United States Supreme Court, and by some lower courts that have addressed eligibility challenges, but the Supreme Court has never directly addressed the question of a specific presidential or vice-presidential candidate's eligibility as a natural-born citizen. Many eligibility lawsuits from the 2008, 2012, and 2016 election cycles were dismissed in lower courts due to the challengers' difficulty in showing that they had standing to raise legal objections. Additionally, some experts have suggested that the precise meaning of the natural-born-citizen clause may never be decided by the courts because, in the end, presidential eligibility may be determined to be a non-justiciable political question that can be decided only by Congress rather than by the judicial branch of government.[6][7]

question everything

(47,486 posts)
24. Interesting. George Romney, who was a candidate in 1968 was born in Mexico to American parents
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 03:52 PM
Jul 2020

McCain was born in Naval Station in Panama.

Now Tammy Duckworth - rumored to be in consideration - was born in Thailand, but only one parent was an American.


zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
4. No friggin' way
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 01:22 PM
Jul 2020

Rice is fine and to some extent my preference. But Jarret has little experience outside of advising Obama.

question everything

(47,486 posts)
25. A "right winger" will say this?
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 05:07 PM
Jul 2020

With three clicks of her red, shiny shoes, the wonder from Wasilla helped usher the Grand Old Party into a regressive era of ignorance, intransigence and an ideological muddle of racism, sexism and nationalistic xenophobia that ultimately produced a Confederate-flag defending, authoritarian-worshipping, Queens-bred reality-TV star named Donald Trump.

Had her name not mentioned, these quoted would send this to the greatest page.

Why are people here so quick to label others base on... what, exactly?

irisblue

(32,980 posts)
26. From her wiki... And my reading her columns over the years
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 05:15 PM
Jul 2020

snip--"Parker describes herself politically as "mostly right of center"[4] and was the highest-scoring conservative pundit in a 2012 retrospective study of pundit prediction accuracy in 2008."

Lots more there


Is your quote from Parker after Palin did so poorly with TV interviews?

You gave no citation. Thanks

irisblue

(32,980 posts)
31. I did read it, earlier today and I forgot it until you replied to me, I've read a few other things t
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 05:27 PM
Jul 2020

You can see Parker, and her opinions as valuable and worth considering to Mr Biden, Democrats and the Democratic Party, I do not.

Parker, like all humans, is wrong at times, and right at times, in this specific case, I feel she is wrong and making a bad faith argument.

Jarrett is a very capable and intelligent woman with a impressive resume. I do not think she brings enough to the table for serious consideration for VP.

YMMV.



ProfessorGAC

(65,061 posts)
8. Dems Need Suggestions From Parker?
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 01:29 PM
Jul 2020

Who cares what she thinks?
She has never been a friend of liberals.
Don't see why we should take her seriously.

question everything

(47,486 posts)
11. Kinda nice to listen to arguments on the merit
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 01:32 PM
Jul 2020

How disappointing to meet tunnel vision and groupthink on these pages.

Hope your students were exposed to diverse opinions to make their own.

ProfessorGAC

(65,061 posts)
18. Silly
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 01:43 PM
Jul 2020

Ideas from allies are always good.
She's no ally.
Her suggestions are irrelevant.
And, please show me how that is groupthink. It's an unfounded, illogical and condescending nonsense to suggest it.
Show me how my posts always match what others say. Don't bother, you can't!
And, I don't think you understand what tunnel vision means.
As to students: organic chemistry mechanisms are not a matter of opinion, nor are the laws of thermodynamics. They are scientific facts, the way the things happen are facts, and the only opinions are those with grad degrees as to the exact rates of bridging at the quantum level.
There are no opinions to solicit.

StatGirl

(518 posts)
21. Kathleen Parker knows full well that the RW media has targeted Jarrett
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 02:45 PM
Jul 2020

Their followers have already decided that Jarrett is the devil incarnate. Parker is just trolling.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
17. There isn't a Dem woman in America that doesn't already have a target on her back.
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 01:41 PM
Jul 2020

All the baggage any of these women have are GOP fabrications.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
32. It's exhausting the effort they put in to take our pieces off the board.
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 05:59 PM
Jul 2020

Can't have another Obama emerge, shiny and new and full of hope and ethics.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
16. Biden needs a Pol. One that shines on the hustings.
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 01:40 PM
Jul 2020

Jarrett and Rice are wonks, not Pols.

Sen. Harris, sad to say, has never particularly impressed me rhetorically, either.

Then again, this won't be a traditional campaign because of the 'Rona, so maybe all normal considerations for VP are out as well. This is a tough choice; glad I don't have to make it.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,622 posts)
33. He's said he would announce his pick by Aug. 1. This is the first trial balloon for Jarrett
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 06:24 PM
Jul 2020

Think about when all the other trial balloons were leaked/floated for Harris, Warren, Klobuchar and Abrams, and how they were floated, in conjunction with a joint appearance with Biden, followed by a media appearance where they were asked about if they were being vetted, would they accept, etc. Even long shot Val Demings went through this trial balloon process.

Not a peep about Jarrett.

All the others speculated to be on his,short list have acknowledged they’re being vetted, a process which includes a 100+ questionnaire, and in depth examination of the person’s history, including finances.

AFAIK, Jarrett has said nothing about being vetted, and I doubt they would be starting now, with just 3 weeks until the announcement date.

This is just a columnists wishful thinking.

Jarrett is super smart and experienced, but I would be surprised if she was on the list, let alone selected for VP.

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