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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsis the Vindman retirement a good thing or a bad thing?
I've been going back and forth on this all afternoon.
On one hand I'm disgusted and furious that it came to this. The bully tactics worked. That a decorated soldier with an impeccable record felt it necessary to call it quits before his time because of relentless trashing from the big orange idiot.
On the other hand, this may become valuable campaign literature during the campaign. The big orange idiot who professes to love our troups so much has been exposed along those lines yet again. The decorated soldier with an impeccable record suddenly became an inconvenience so let loose with the trashing campaign. Fucking phony hypocrite. Maybe there's another clever Lincoln Project ad.
scarytomcat
(1,706 posts)the military was his life
all he did was his job
dem4decades
(11,296 posts)2naSalit
(86,646 posts)spanone
(135,844 posts)Bad thing.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)johnp3907
(3,731 posts)montanacowboy
(6,089 posts)can reinstate him to a full Colonel (call him back to duty)
sfstaxprep
(9,998 posts)He says the very 1st thing Biden should do when he takes office, is ask him to come back, and immediately promote him to full Colonel.
Bev54
(10,053 posts)then he can retire if he likes as a full Colonel and then he should be made the Ambassador to Ukraine which will not only be a finger to Trump but also to Putin.
Leith
(7,809 posts)He is young enough to start a new career and that sounds like a good one.
Dan
(3,568 posts)unblock
(52,247 posts)it's hard to blame anyone for wanting to quit or retire when treated horribly, but we need decent people in the government and in the armed forces.
and with donnie in charge, the only way we're getting decent people is if the ones already there stay there because he sure isn't adding any new ones.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)And there's nothing that can be done about it while the big baby is throwing tantrums in the Oval Office.
That being said, there's nothing that says we shouldn't use this issue as a cudgel (electorally speaking) to smack Needy Amin around every chance we get.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)more shame heaped upon the Republicans that enable trump's malignancy
napi21
(45,806 posts)AND for the ARMY! NO politician should interfere with the military like that EVER! He said in his resignation letter that's why he was retiring...he knew he'd never get another promotion. DT will get his...maybe sooner than we think. As of the January 2021 inauguration of a new President, he will be back to just a civilian, an although DT tried to get rid of any AG's who would come after him, there are many more in those offices who will go after him with pride & vengeance.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)While he was serving, he could not talk much about his experiences, other than stuff like his Congressional testimony. Now, he does not have to be discrete other than about classified data.
KT2000
(20,583 posts)He should have gotten his promotion. In fact, someone in Congress should pass a law that his retirement be based on Colonel salary since the day he testified.
More politicians should have stood up for him.
stopdiggin
(11,316 posts)unfortunately. (This preempts the promotion rolls -- and whether he would appear on them. So Espy gets to side-step that one.)
(however -- not sure if I'm comfortable with expecting a man to offer up his personal life and professional career as "bargaining chips" and bullet points for someone's campaign brochures. I wish he would have stayed on -- but I think the man has made all the sacrifices we have any right to ask of him.)
Captain_New_York
(161 posts)He knew that this was tearing at the threads of the army and all the services. The army has a job todo and the plight of one man is not the focus. Yes President Biden should do the right thing