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Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts) Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:29 AM Jul 2020

Probably a stoopid questions, but if Trump loses the 2020 election...

can he still be taken to court of these issues that SCOTUS ruled on, today?

I'm sure they will do everything they can to delay it until after the election, but he should have to cooperate if the lower court(s) agree with SCOTUS, right? POTUS, or not?

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Probably a stoopid questions, but if Trump loses the 2020 election... (Original Post) Frustratedlady Jul 2020 OP

Its my opinion ScratchCat Jul 2020 #1

If there are any Federal Crimes revealed in his documents, leftieNanner Jul 2020 #6

Also, Biden will appoint people that will actually hand over the tax return in IRS Claustrum Jul 2020 #9

I hope you are right. We've all invested a lot of time and misery in waiting for this decision. Frustratedlady Jul 2020 #12

Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass "Go" soothsayer Jul 2020 #2

Absolutely. That's why he's freaking out. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #3

I would think so leftieNanner Jul 2020 #4

One property value for taxes safeinOhio Jul 2020 #11

Probably not the House Coleman Jul 2020 #5

Yes, of course, and it becomes much easier when he isn't pulling the strings in DOJ. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #7

Maybe, but conviction not likely. At best, there will always be at least one white wing juror Hoyt Jul 2020 #8

Well, his two SCOTUS picks didn't go along with him, this morning... Frustratedlady Jul 2020 #10

All 9 judges agreed that safeinOhio Jul 2020 #13

I wondered from the time Barr stated that Trump couldn't be charged with anything while POTUS. Frustratedlady Jul 2020 #14

You can't go to court based on what someone said. GulfCoast66 Jul 2020 #15

ScratchCat

(1,990 posts)

1. Its my opinion

Reply to Frustratedlady (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:31 AM

Jul 2020

That if he is not POTUS, Congress's legal reason for wanting them would be moot. I think NY's State case of tax fraud would be unaffected.

leftieNanner

(15,135 posts)

6. If there are any Federal Crimes revealed in his documents,

Reply to ScratchCat (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:32 AM

Jul 2020

can a new DOJ pursue those?

Agree that NY State will go after him.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)

9. Also, Biden will appoint people that will actually hand over the tax return in IRS

Reply to ScratchCat (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:35 AM

Jul 2020

And we won't have a DOJ that serves as Trump's personal lawyer to prevent the IRS from handing it over.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)

12. I hope you are right. We've all invested a lot of time and misery in waiting for this decision.

Reply to Claustrum (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:51 AM

Jul 2020

It is our turn to win and expose Trump for what he truly is. Mary T. is a big help, but we need auditors to untangle Trump's financial jungle and nail him. When he evades taxes, the rest of us pay the bills for the country. He has no right to keep his wealth through cheating while others are hungry and suffering.

Somewhere along the way, he has to know that his father led him astray. Just look at the million$ they made in the process, at our expense.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)

2. Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass "Go"

Reply to Frustratedlady (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:31 AM

Jul 2020

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,761 posts)

3. Absolutely. That's why he's freaking out.

Reply to Frustratedlady (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:31 AM

Jul 2020

leftieNanner

(15,135 posts)

4. I would think so

Reply to Frustratedlady (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:31 AM

Jul 2020

State of New York - Vance - has issues that has nothing to do with the office of the presidency.

If there are any federal crimes that might be unearthed, the a new DOJ could pursue them.

safeinOhio

(32,698 posts)

11. One property value for taxes

Reply to leftieNanner (Reply #4)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:49 AM

Jul 2020

Another for bank loans.
Pointed out, big time, by Mary Trumps new book and NY Times 2017 story.

Coleman

(853 posts)

5. Probably not the House

Reply to Frustratedlady (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:32 AM

Jul 2020

When he is no longer president their oversight rationale will end, but they could turn it all over to the new SDNY prosecutor.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)

7. Yes, of course, and it becomes much easier when he isn't pulling the strings in DOJ.

Reply to Frustratedlady (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:32 AM

Jul 2020

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)

8. Maybe, but conviction not likely. At best, there will always be at least one white wing juror

Reply to Frustratedlady (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:34 AM

Jul 2020

to hang any jury.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)

10. Well, his two SCOTUS picks didn't go along with him, this morning...

Reply to Hoyt (Reply #8)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:38 AM

Jul 2020

so, with the climate of COVID and evidence presented to the Grand Jury, maybe he has run out of luck and even the toughest MAGAt won't bail him out.

Maybe Congress needs to hurry and remove Barr. He is probably his last hope.

safeinOhio

(32,698 posts)

13. All 9 judges agreed that

Reply to Frustratedlady (Reply #10)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:54 AM

Jul 2020

No one is above the law. AG Barr looks to be out of arguments.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)

14. I wondered from the time Barr stated that Trump couldn't be charged with anything while POTUS.

Reply to safeinOhio (Reply #13)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 10:42 PM

Jul 2020

Why didn't the Democrats chase that to the courts for a ruling. Just because Barr was the AG doesn't make it real and it didn't even sound logical. When no one did anything, I assumed I was wrong in my thinking. Now, I find I was right.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)

15. You can't go to court based on what someone said.

Reply to Frustratedlady (Reply #14)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 10:58 PM

Jul 2020

There has to be a real world situation. And then it takes a while to reach the supremes.

This case was in the works before Barr came on the scene.

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