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Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts) Thu Jul 9, 2020, 12:24 PM Jul 2020

Why would 4 patriots who know and respect the constitution side with 3 traitors?

Clearly rump's taxes MUST be turned over to congress, period, end of story.

So did the patriots have to compromise and decide this way otherwise the 3 traitors would not even allow for the DA to see them?

Why does this law apply to all presidents other than traitor?

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Why would 4 patriots who know and respect the constitution side with 3 traitors? (Original Post) Eliot Rosewater Jul 2020 OP

? I thought the SC said he did need to turn over his PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #1

The SD?NY Grand Jury can see them, not Congress right now. 2naSalit Jul 2020 #2

So since the law is MUST turn over to congress, clearly the patriots had to compromise Eliot Rosewater Jul 2020 #4

It is a separation of power issue...he didn't win...sent back to the lower court. Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #9

Congress can't see them (yet), but the NY prosecutors can apparently. n/t woodsprite Jul 2020 #3

Neal Katyal: "I expect Cy Vance to move incredibly fast." PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #5

THanks, good info... Eliot Rosewater Jul 2020 #7

Thanks for the link. Mr. Katyal says a lot there. yonder Jul 2020 #8

I wonder backtoblue Jul 2020 #6

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,865 posts)

1. ? I thought the SC said he did need to turn over his

Reply to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 12:36 PM

Jul 2020

taxes, a 7-2 decision. What am I missing?

2naSalit

(86,673 posts)

2. The SD?NY Grand Jury can see them, not Congress right now.

Reply to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 12:40 PM

Jul 2020

It's a slap at the House but they let the GJ have them, from what i hear, the docs are already there.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)

4. So since the law is MUST turn over to congress, clearly the patriots had to compromise

Reply to 2naSalit (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 12:43 PM

Jul 2020

Awaiting some more input from our resident experts.

Demsrule86

(68,613 posts)

9. It is a separation of power issue...he didn't win...sent back to the lower court.

Reply to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #4)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 01:25 PM

Jul 2020

I think this was a very good ruling. They ruled against immunity for the president in Vance. This is huge. They said Congress's request was to broad in the Congressional ruling...President can't stiff Congress...Congress can't go fishing either...a good ruling. A different ruling could have bitten us in the ass if a future GOP Congress goes after our president.

woodsprite

(11,916 posts)

3. Congress can't see them (yet), but the NY prosecutors can apparently. n/t

Reply to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 12:41 PM

Jul 2020

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,865 posts)

5. Neal Katyal: "I expect Cy Vance to move incredibly fast."

Reply to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 12:47 PM

Jul 2020

See this thread.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213723389

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)

7. THanks, good info...

Reply to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 12:55 PM

Jul 2020

BUT why does the law that prez MUST turn them over to congress apply to all and not him?

The only answer must be it does apply to him but the fuck cons on SC told the patriots no way they would do that.

yonder

(9,668 posts)

8. Thanks for the link. Mr. Katyal says a lot there.

Reply to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 12:58 PM

Jul 2020

backtoblue

(11,344 posts)

6. I wonder

Reply to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 12:52 PM

Jul 2020

Say Vance gets the tax info soon.

Can Congress then supena Vance for a hearing, along with the info given to him?

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