That was their point.

before Nov. It'll have to be fast though. But I thought it was Kagan and Breyer who sided with the majority.

They didn’t rule that Vance now gets the documents. They ruled that the President cannot claim absolute immunity... and then finished by sending it back to the lower courts and listing a bunch of claims that he COULD try (not saying that he would win).

Each of those anticipated claims will probably take months before the lower court even rules on them. Vance is unlikely to have much to work with before November.

If they allow the records to be released after November, and Trump wins re-election, what they contain is absolutely meaningless. Sure, if it's scandalous enough, the House might impeach again, but does anyone think there won't be at least thirty-four Republican senators who will block conviction no matter what? (Even if we run the table in Senate elections this year, there still will be that many.) And, even if what is revealed is so egregious that even Republicans can't defend it, that still means we get four years of President Pence nominating SCOTUS justices and furthering the McConnell agenda.

As some news story put it, this was a procedural loss and a practical win for Trump. Nothing to enjoy here.

His tweeting behavior today with the flop sweat whining reveals that he sees it as his loss. It's a blow that knocks him off his high horse pins. A bad thing for him months before the election. I'm joyous.

But you're welcome to take the last word between us. I won't belabor my point.

trouble if a partisan court ruled that he had special rights. And the immunity question was a 9-0 ruling...the dissenters felt Trump deserved some special protections...so it is a great win for anyone who values a constitutional Republic.

practically ensures that Trump's taxes won't see the light of day for months, likely years. And that's disgusting (not them) but what the decision does in "real life" is I mean.

You seem to be very confused as to the scope of this case. There were two ways to rule, were they supposed to dissent?

maybe like a search warrant? I think it used to be that you had to know what you were looking for, and have to be reasonably sure that a search would turn up evidence of a crime. But that's the old days, not really applicable in Barr-time.

Trump and his MAGAts lost.

Trump's taxes were never going to be a factor in the Election. You would never have seen them. Voters have no legal right to see them. The Manhattan DA, in a Grand Jury process, was never going to "leak" the results, nor was he going to rush charges.

He has repeatedly, loudly, and notoriously stated he has been audited for decades and we have seen not a single tax case filed, no fines paid, no settlements offered. So one of two things is true, either the IRS has been targeting him for no good reason or legitimate cases are not being pursued. We can't figure out which it is without seeing those returns.

Congress does for a justifiable purpose of oversight. They do NOT have the right to share tax details with the public.

if I don't know if they are targeting an innocent citizen or tanking cases? And I can't know that without seeing those returns, or at least having someone who knows tax law see them.

and if we have public hearings on this matter, they would be literally impossible to follow without an ability to see the returns being talked about.

Former US Attorney Geoffrey Berman spoke to the Judiciary Committee today in closed session.

In any event, what you think you deserve to know is irrelevant. The Congress passed the Internal Revenue Code which prohibits the public release of tax records. Perhaps you should take this up with Speaker Pelosi.

The court was right. It is a separation of powers issue. If Congress can show a need and maybe scale back some of their requests...they will get the taxes maybe even before the election. However, I doubt we would see them even then.

That would be highly unethical. They may jockey about wording in an opinion or decision within one case, but they would NEVER engage in horse trading for votes between different and unrelated cases.

To even suggest that is beyond the pale.

of Trump and totally corrupting it.

Is because they show he has very little money and a pile of debt. Donald's wealth, aside from the fortune from his father that he spent away, has been based on the smoke and mirrors of constantly moving debt around. And some money laundering for the Russians.