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sheshe2

(83,875 posts)
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 08:19 PM Jul 2020

Costco Bans Employees From Wearing Masks That Say Black Lives Matter, Because It Is 'Political'

As Black people have long known, the idea that Black lives matter is still not a given to everyone—and is actually up for debate in some circles—which is what inspired the simple yet powerful affirmation in the first place.

Costco is the latest business to betray its discomfort with the idea, with store managers in Louisville, Chicago, Delaware, and New Jersey sending several employees home for wearing masks that read “Black Lives Matter,” according to a Buzzfeed News report.

Employees at Costco say the big-box business is making a clear choice by penalizing workers who show they believe Black lives matter, since the store has allowed workers to wear masks showing everything from the Pride flag to the “Blue Lives Matter” version of the American flag for months.
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According to Buzzfeed, Costco CEO Craig Jelinek met with disgruntled employees to talk about the stores’ apparent policy against Black Lives Matter apparel, after a Black worker posted a scathing resignation letter on Facebook that called the company out for believing he is “essential enough to risk my life, but not essential enough to stand against my death.”


Must Read: https://www.theroot.com/costco-bans-employees-from-wearing-masks-that-say-black-1844354715

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Costco just took a nose dive, IMHO.

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Costco Bans Employees From Wearing Masks That Say Black Lives Matter, Because It Is 'Political' (Original Post) sheshe2 Jul 2020 OP
They allow "Blue lives matter" but not "Black lives matter"? Blue_true Jul 2020 #1
They say they don't. Maybe this varies from location to location? pnwmom Jul 2020 #34
Then, they need to orient ALL store managers on what their policy is. Blue_true Jul 2020 #37
Prove it superpatriotman Jul 2020 #50
I don't have to "prove" anything. My point was a philosophical one, if one is allowed, Blue_true Jul 2020 #57
I hope they fix this, they are generally... Blue_playwright Jul 2020 #2
i'm disappointed in Costco. Either all or nothing. dem4decades Jul 2020 #3
Just wear it anyway BGBD Jul 2020 #4
Costco is a very good employer, with benefits. I wouldn't throw away a job like that. Hekate Jul 2020 #20
Wouldn't be. BGBD Jul 2020 #25
Putting anything political or religious on a mask is wrong, imo. gulliver Jul 2020 #5
Agree crimycarny Jul 2020 #10
I agree. Tipperary Jul 2020 #28
I agree.... not suitable for the workplace. Talitha Jul 2020 #33
Yes, that is what I think PatSeg Jul 2020 #35
Black lives matter is NOT a political or religious statement Sunsky Jul 2020 #52
Totally agree!! LeftInTX Jul 2020 #55
if costco requires employee masks it should provide them with an approved design nt msongs Jul 2020 #6
+1 treestar Jul 2020 #9
+1 Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2020 #15
great idea! :) samnsara Jul 2020 #16
Precisely Sherman A1 Jul 2020 #19
I don't want to see anything remotely political on masks by workers Dem2 Jul 2020 #7
Me too crimycarny Jul 2020 #11
Definitely. No personal messages should be on work attire, much less those that are controversial. Chemisse Jul 2020 #12
That is the CEO's argument. That if they said yes to Black Lives Matter pnwmom Jul 2020 #39
Yet... sheshe2 Jul 2020 #41
The article mentioned specific stores. Is this one of those, or does "the store" refer to the pnwmom Jul 2020 #42
And that would be fine if they hadn't allowed others previously. n/t Chemisse Jul 2020 #44
AMEN to that! I want my store environment to be a safe haven... samnsara Jul 2020 #14
Same here Hekate Jul 2020 #21
Agree JDC Jul 2020 #22
+1 dalton99a Jul 2020 #26
I'd have to agree with that... just keep it as neutral as possible. (n/t) SMC22307 Jul 2020 #27
Same, no matter what it is n/t obamanut2012 Jul 2020 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author vsrazdem Jul 2020 #8
pride flag is not political when it's during pride month AlexSFCA Jul 2020 #13
I am gay. I feel no need to wear a pride flag on my mask. Tipperary Jul 2020 #29
None of this SHOULD be political. But it is, so it should not be on store workers' masks. Chemisse Jul 2020 #45
As long as they ban ALL political masks I'm for it. Everything is so stressed now Maraya1969 Jul 2020 #17
This! sheshe2 Jul 2020 #18
Yes... THAT. NurseJackie Jul 2020 #23
same......... Takket Jul 2020 #24
Agree. Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2020 #36
LOL! LeftInTX Jul 2020 #56
How about just ban any mask that isn't a solid color? Initech Jul 2020 #30
..👍🏼 uponit7771 Jul 2020 #43
Dammit this ones going to hurt. I friggin love Costco. EqualityNow Jul 2020 #31
Change.org is running a petition. I've signed, and welcome you to join. EqualityNow Jul 2020 #32
The local supermarket I go to only allows employees to wear masks that are solid color Jake Stern Jul 2020 #38
That sound fine to me. Tipperary Jul 2020 #40
Honestly I get it on Costco's part.... marmar Jul 2020 #46
A better policy would be Bettie Jul 2020 #47
It is "political", but only in a social commentary, not partisan, sense. It's no more political Tom Rinaldo Jul 2020 #49
Costco should provide masks to all employees that bear the Costco label. MineralMan Jul 2020 #51
Costco is full of **it Sunsky Jul 2020 #53
From a business standpoint it's a smart move to just madville Jul 2020 #54

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
1. They allow "Blue lives matter" but not "Black lives matter"?
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 08:25 PM
Jul 2020

Do they realize that “Blue lives matter” was a reactionary action against the statement that Black lives matter?

Yes, this doesn’t put the company in a good light.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
37. Then, they need to orient ALL store managers on what their policy is.
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 11:14 PM
Jul 2020

Personally, I think that it is a really bad idea to allow religious or group affinity identification on the job. Many companies do, but I never have and never will. I do believe in busting the heads of anyone that discriminate, that simply is something that should not be tolerated in any business.

superpatriotman

(6,252 posts)
50. Prove it
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 10:17 AM
Jul 2020

It’s written in an article on the Root with reference to a Buzzfeed article, with no proof.

Costco is a great progressive company in a world where that is very rare.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
57. I don't have to "prove" anything. My point was a philosophical one, if one is allowed,
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 04:54 PM
Jul 2020

the other can’t rightfully be prevented, if fairness is the objective.

Personally, I don’t allow any identity affiliations, I think that has the potential to distract from the basic mission of selling products that are useful to customers. Discrimination in any form is also a no-no.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
4. Just wear it anyway
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 08:28 PM
Jul 2020

Call their bluff. They're not about to fire anyone for it, they know better.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
25. Wouldn't be.
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 10:10 PM
Jul 2020

There isn't a manager in the whole system that is going to fire them for it and if there is there isn't a manager above that person who will let it stand.

They know the heat that would come down on them for doing something like that. I don't think Costco is looking for a BLM protest to set up in every parking lot they have across the country over the mask an employee chooses to wear.

gulliver

(13,186 posts)
5. Putting anything political or religious on a mask is wrong, imo.
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 08:28 PM
Jul 2020

I don't care what the cause. We don't need anything on the masks that might turn people against wearing them.

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
10. Agree
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 08:37 PM
Jul 2020

American’s are stressed to the max right now. No need to add fuel to the fire. But Costco should provide employees masks, that way you remove this issue completely.

PatSeg

(47,576 posts)
35. Yes, that is what I think
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 11:06 PM
Jul 2020

Employers have the right to establish certain dress codes and it is appropriate to keep politics outside of the workplace. If people want to wear such masks to a protest march, that is a different story, but it doesn't belong at work. Any employee should not be surprised by this.

Meanwhile from all I hear, Costco is an excellent employer and their requirement seems reasonable.

Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
52. Black lives matter is NOT a political or religious statement
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 10:51 AM
Jul 2020

It does. This is bs. If your feelings are hurt because a human being is fighting to make his or her life count, then fck your feelings and fck Costco.
Just as any fashion item, masks have become a way for people to express their individuality, from the type of mask they wear to the color and patterns. Most of my masks match the clothes I wear. I have a friend who makes them for me and I just love to coordinate, that may not be your thing and that's your choice.

LeftInTX

(25,526 posts)
55. Totally agree!!
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 11:41 AM
Jul 2020

We have alot of political masks here.


I refuse to politicize masks. It's a science thing.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
9. +1
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 08:36 PM
Jul 2020

I can understand they don't want political arguments at work, but then be even handed. But your solution deals with it better. And customers can tell who works there.

Chemisse

(30,816 posts)
12. Definitely. No personal messages should be on work attire, much less those that are controversial.
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 08:50 PM
Jul 2020

Which of course means 'blue lives matter' and others should not have been allowed either.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
39. That is the CEO's argument. That if they said yes to Black Lives Matter
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 11:24 PM
Jul 2020

they'd have to say yes to All Lives Matter,.

sheshe2

(83,875 posts)
41. Yet...
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 11:30 PM
Jul 2020
the store has allowed workers to wear masks showing everything from the Pride flag to the “Blue Lives Matter” version of the American flag for months.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
42. The article mentioned specific stores. Is this one of those, or does "the store" refer to the
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 12:39 AM
Jul 2020

whole chain?

Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
13. pride flag is not political when it's during pride month
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 08:56 PM
Jul 2020

also, black lives matter shouldn’t be political during black history month. I think those should be common sense exceptions. But I can also understand that in some areas, a worker can get shot dead by a customer for wearing something like that.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
29. I am gay. I feel no need to wear a pride flag on my mask.
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 10:28 PM
Jul 2020

My masks are standard surgical masks. Politics can stay out of health care.

Chemisse

(30,816 posts)
45. None of this SHOULD be political. But it is, so it should not be on store workers' masks.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 09:23 AM
Jul 2020

Because if you're okay with that, you have to also accept store workers running around with all sorts of hateful RW messages on their masks.

Maraya1969

(22,495 posts)
17. As long as they ban ALL political masks I'm for it. Everything is so stressed now
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 09:00 PM
Jul 2020

as it is we don't need more fight fights for crying out loud.

It is a business.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,856 posts)
36. Agree.
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 11:08 PM
Jul 2020

Most businesses have dress codes.

I wore a shirt to work that said, "You cannot serve both God and money," and I was told by management to change shirts or wear it inside out. I complied.

I'm not religious at all, but my boss was one of those money-obsessed "Christians" and I wondered how he'd react. As I expected, he didn't like it. I also knew that we weren't supposed to wear clothing with messages, so I was ready with a spare shirt.

 

EqualityNow

(32 posts)
31. Dammit this ones going to hurt. I friggin love Costco.
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 10:31 PM
Jul 2020

One of the few places I can go to here in West Houston and KNOW that mask rules will be enforced.
Was a leader in ensuring numbers in the store and social distancing was followed.
Reputation for good pay and treating employees well.

Going to have to find an alternative if they don't get their heads out of their asses on this though. Non-negotiable. BLM is only "political" because those who either oppose or want to marginalize it make it "political". It's a matter of morals, a matter right and wrong.

Both "blue lives matter" and "all lives matter" bullshit is about marginalizing BLM, because when a "blue" life is lost, there is no expense spared in hunting down and prosecuting the person('s) responsible. Blue lives aren't shooting "all" lives for just walking with a hoodie though their own neighborhood, or incarcerating "all" lives at disproportionate rates for the same crimes, or kneeling on the neck and back and murdering "all" lives for a call in on a counterfeit bill.

For me, this ones going to hurt, but f'em. I will not support a business that terminates employees for expressing support for BLM.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
38. The local supermarket I go to only allows employees to wear masks that are solid color
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 11:24 PM
Jul 2020

or they sell ones with the store logo on it for a couple bucks with the proceeds going to the fund which pays for events for employees like the summer cook out, etc.

Seems fair to me.

marmar

(77,089 posts)
46. Honestly I get it on Costco's part....
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 09:25 AM
Jul 2020

.... 'cause you know the kind of reaction a BLM mask will cause among some customers. For the sake of keeping things calm in the store, and frankly, for the safety of the employees, it makes sense.


Bettie

(16,122 posts)
47. A better policy would be
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 09:28 AM
Jul 2020

to simply issue masks for wearing at work, either with a logo or just plain.

Or perhaps to say only plain colored masks may be worn.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
49. It is "political", but only in a social commentary, not partisan, sense. It's no more political
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 09:49 AM
Jul 2020

than Yellow Ribbons, Support Our Troops, Gay Pride, or calls for embracing Recycling. It is less political that Blue Lives Matter. Unless Costco bans all social commentary, they have no basis to single out Black Lives Matter.

MineralMan

(146,325 posts)
51. Costco should provide masks to all employees that bear the Costco label.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 10:22 AM
Jul 2020

At the company's expense. Make them part of the company's uniform.

Politics and religion have no place in the work environment, in my opinion. Both are bad for business, generally.

That's my opinion on this. Yours might be different.

Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
53. Costco is full of **it
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 10:53 AM
Jul 2020

Black lives matter is not a political statement. They have lost one customer.

madville

(7,412 posts)
54. From a business standpoint it's a smart move to just
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 11:00 AM
Jul 2020

Prohibit all messaging of any kind on clothes, face masks, etc.

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